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is this forum not called "ENGLISHforum"???????????
The guy only made two comments in this thread (three in total on EF) and that was in November and December last year. Why are you dredging this up?
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Some good news http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...sEnabled=false

So a military solution does exist ? not perfect, but working (for now, at least)
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Old 08.11.2010, 22:07
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Some good news http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...sEnabled=false

So a military solution does exist ? not perfect, but working (for now, at least)
Sheesh....

Let it go eh ?
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Old 08.11.2010, 22:26
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Sorry we won...

But no worries - Jerusalem is heating up again
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Old 09.11.2010, 15:53
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Which writer doesn't want his book to be translated ?
One who is afraid for his life, of course.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/book...ding-in-hebrew

Looking forward to reading it - both writer (bigoted as he is) and translator (a refugee from Iraq) should make it a great cultural event.
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Well - not a great cultural event, but an ok book none the less.

A good read for anyone interested in current Egyptian affairs.

Wikipedia reference-linkThe_Yacoubian_Building
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Old 11.11.2010, 22:33
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Fast reader or you have a lot of spare time (9.11 you were looking forward to read, 11.11 you rate the book). Hope you understood it nevertheless.
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A few weeks ago I asked a person who claimed to be something to do with the UN. What would happen if Mubarak should die? He said that the military would instate his son Gamal. Is Mubarak dying or is this just rumour?
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Fast reader or you have a lot of spare time (9.11 you were looking forward to read, 11.11 you rate the book). Hope you understood it nevertheless.
You can quiz me on it anytime
It's not up to Mahfouz level but very readable, very realistic.

There is also a film, should you find a book too taxing.
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A few weeks ago I asked a person who claimed to be something to do with the UN. What would happen if Mubarak should die? He said that the military would instate his son Gamal. Is Mubarak dying or is this just rumour?
aren't we all somehow dying....getting closer to the fatal end?
Yes in the middle east they like to put family members to ensure the continuity of the great work they initiated. In other countries it's collecting money of corruption and/or sex scandals.
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Old 11.11.2010, 22:57
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You can quiz me on it anytime
It's not up to Mahfouz level but very readable, very realistic.

There is also a film, should you find a book too taxing.
how do you know it's realistic?
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how do you know it's realistic?
I keep in touch with reality. you should try it sometimes.

but don't take my word for it - read the reviews, or better yet - go to Egypt and criticise the government loudly.
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Old 11.11.2010, 23:15
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I keep in touch with reality. you should try it sometimes.

but don't take my word for it - read the reviews, or better yet - go to Egypt and criticise the government loudly.
Be a nice boy now, wake up , open your eyes and take your pills.
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Be a nice boy now, wake up , open your eyes and take your pills.
Do try to stay on topic.

The book shows exactly what I wrote about before - an example of a badly run Muslim country.
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Old 11.11.2010, 23:28
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Enjoy the cruise "activists" - maybe using libya as a base for "humantarian" causes wasn't such a great idea after all...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ers-greek-boat
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Old 11.11.2010, 23:38
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Do try to stay on topic.

The book shows exactly what I wrote about before - an example of a badly run Muslim country.
I think the topic is so far from the genuine topic of the thread: Israel-Palestine. Stop this propaganda and diversion on any other badly run country (muslim or not).

But if you invest some time in explaining why the israeli government is building houses for jewish family only in east jerusalem,
why the government is still claiming to want peace but in fact is just playing the time,
if you spend more time giving justice to Silwan inhabitants instead of telling us fairy tales here you would do yourself and the world justice.
If you spend more time fighting against israeli laws discrimininating palestinians you could then say that you are not part of the apartheid regime.
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Old 11.11.2010, 23:56
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

Israel can build as much as it wants in its capital - and Everybody is allowed to buy.

Peace ? I've yet to see arab countries living in real peace with each other, so expecting them to have one with Israel is quite far fetched. There is hardly a single arab country which didn't have a war with a neighbouring country (Israel excluded) or a civil war, or a revolution.

Can you name this country, Mr. Vertigo ?

Until they get their act together there will be no meaningful peace.

The palestinians currently have 3 countries:
1. Gaza - Full Islaimist control. no jews left, Christians leaving.
2. The west bank - enjoys more autonomy than Catalunia or the Basque country. Christians are leaving.
3. Jordan - the vast majority of jordanians are palestinians. Christians not doing very well. Jews were expelled long time ago and are forbiden by law to return (some peace, huh).

There are plenty of apartheid regimes in the Middle east. Israel is not one of them.
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Old 12.11.2010, 00:02
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I'm kind of confused here. Mubarak is our man in Egypt, the US government will arrange that his son takes over. That smacks of nepotism, something we criticize North Korea for. They will do this as Egypt is Israel's only friend in the region. So what are you two arguing about? Suddenly Pashosh likes Egyptian fiction, hmm I wonder why.

Sorry to be sceptical but your standpoint is pretty solid Pashosh, I doubt that you would back anything that wasn't pro-Israel in some way, But hey maybe I shouldn't be so suspicious. Who recommended you read the book Pashosh?


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A senior US intelligence officer said: "We have access to, for lack of a better word, his court. We know he is dying, but we don't know when he will die. You can be dying for a long time, by the way. Look at [former Cuban President Fidel] Castro."

Sources told The Washington Times that the National Intelligence Council and the US Central Command are reportedly analyzing possible situations and power transitions after Mubarak's death.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=181871
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an example of a badly run Muslim country.
I think we've already discussed the disproportionate number of high level Israeli politicians indicted for fraud, bribery and embezzlement e.g. Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Avigdor Lieberman and in the case of ex-President Moshe Katsav, the ultimate bad day at the office... Rape.

According to the anti-corruption group Transparency International, Israeli sits 32nd out of 178 in the corruption index.. between those other two paragons of good government the UAE and the Dominican Republic.
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Israel can build as much as it wants in its capital - and Everybody is allowed to buy.

Peace ? I've yet to see arab countries living in real peace with each other, so expecting them to have one with Israel is quite far fetched. There is hardly a single arab country which didn't have a war with a neighbouring country (Israel excluded) or a civil war, or a revolution.

Can you name this country, Mr. Vertigo ?

Until they get their act together there will be no meaningful peace.

The palestinians currently have 3 countries:
1. Gaza - Full Islaimist control. no jews left, Christians leaving.
2. The west bank - enjoys more autonomy than Catalunia or the Basque country. Christians are leaving.
3. Jordan - the vast majority of jordanians are palestinians. Christians not doing very well. Jews were expelled long time ago and are forbiden by law to return (some peace, huh).

There are plenty of apartheid regimes in the Middle east. Israel is not one of them.
It's not Israel's business if Morocco and Algeria have tensions. The thread is about "Israel Palestine" so stay on topic. Avoid diverting the discussion on other countries.

Everybody is allowed to buy nice joke. Let's state it like this: jewish organisation and administration have the right to expel legit palestinian owners of land and property. I mentioned Silwan, read it as it's a quite well known case.

Please don't say COUNTRY when you speak about gaza, west bank. They are not even allowed to receive a ship full of material and medicaments. What state are you talking about. Do they have an airport or harbour? Please wake up and remember the blockade and the constant humiliations perpetrated by israeli army on palestinians (remember all the facebook pictures, videos of soliders dancing on prisoners): it's the ultimate proof that it's apartheid! Wake up and don't tell us later: I did not know.
Every single country in the world condemned the last "peace proof" provided by israeli government. Wake up!
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