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Old 17.01.2011, 00:28
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Show me where I have been racist.
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Old 17.01.2011, 00:31
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Show me where I have been racist.
Ooh... let's see... "filthy" Turks selling kebabs (Ali kebab)... effeminate, hairless Asian men... Israeli doctors drinking the blood of Palestinian children (or stealing their organs - same difference)...

If it wasn't bed time I'd hunt up the posts, but some of us have to contribute to the economy, you know...
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You groaned at this Uncle max and I don't understand why. She is in Iran and Israel have threatened to bomb Iran, both of these points are true.
Didn't Iranian president threaten to bomb Israel too? Be happy that your 82 year old grandmother has lived such a long life. The way I am tucking into ice cream and peanut butter I won't even make it past 50.
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Old 17.01.2011, 00:54
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Didn't Iranian president threaten to bomb Israel too? Be happy that your 82 year old grandmother has lived such a long life. The way I am tucking into ice cream and peanut butter I won't even make it past 50.
It's an empty threat, even if he made it which he apparently didn't. Compare Iranian weapons to Israel weapons. White phosphorus is just a small part of what they can do.

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" "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian," remarked Juan Cole, a Middle East specialist at the University of Michigan and critic of American policy who has argued that the Iranian president was misquoted. He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse." Since Iran has not "attacked another country aggressively for over a century," he said in an e-mail exchange, "I smell the whiff of war propaganda."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/we...11bronner.html
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Old 17.01.2011, 01:25
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Ooh... let's see... "filthy" Turks selling kebabs (Ali kebab)... effeminate, hairless Asian men... Israeli doctors drinking the blood of Palestinian children (or stealing their organs - same difference)...

If it wasn't bed time I'd hunt up the posts, but some of us have to contribute to the economy, you know...
1. The Turkish man did look filthy to me- not how my Turkish friends serve food in their award winning restaurant in Troy NY.

2. Effeminate hairless men? Asian men generally have less body hair not many have the Arnie neanderthal look- jutting jaw, big physique, big eyebrow ridge.

3. Never said that Jewish doctor's drink the blood, I think you are mixing them up with vampires, there is however, this, about organs:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...rvested-organs

But then again there is this sad but wonderful story about a Scottish Jewish boy and a Palestinian boy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoni_Je...d_Ahmed_Khatib

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I demand an apology.
I'm very sorry for you.

Clearly, hoppy, with your reasoning I have a terrible hatred towards lil' old ladies in Iran and as a consequence of being ex-IDF - where did you learn this? - I'm racist.

Keep making stuff up. It's almost funny, except I presume you're an adult.
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Old 17.01.2011, 12:38
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

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They've been a bit busy with other things.

They have done some other rather dubious things, even if it's not an open declaration of war (i.e. state sponsored terrorism, efforts to exert influence in Iraq).

Having said that, I don't think they're seeking the Bomb with the aim of using it . . . it's just the ultimate bargaining chip. And all of Ahmajinedad's rhetoric is for his internal audience.
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

How can you compare or call the IDF terrorist, if the only thing thy are trying to do is defend there country. Im not discussing now if thy own it or not, ill leave that to the UN and co. or for a dif. post. But have you ever heard of an Israli going into Gaza and blowing up a bus full of innocent civilians in a busy market place. Dose Israel EVER shoot random rockets into Gaza just to cause damage or kill people. OH NO, actually what thy did do is drop flyers and even called people to leave there houses before thy bombed infrastrukturs believed to support terrorist organizations or places that where used to shoot rockets from.
Which other country ever did that ? Warn an enemy? Yeah sure casualtys happend, i really do feel bad for all those Innocent people that died, its a shame we cant live in peace but have you ever heard a war where not only bad people die ?Has Israel ever gone to war with a country just to get there natural recourses? Dont pick a fight with someone and expect not to get hit.
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

And with that, we are... back on topic! Thanks.

(Have you read the whole thread though? The exact same arguments - and all the usual counterarguments to them - have been made at least twelve times already, and the same people are still on the same sides of the question.)
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Sorry Mathnut but i aint going through 57 pages to say what i think.
Well ill be happy to listen to any arguments on my post and debate it.

just to loosen the air a little, thought it was funny

Let me tell you something that we Israelis have against Moses. He took us 40 years through the desert in order to bring us to the one spot in the Middle East that has no oil!
Golda Meir
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Old 22.01.2011, 17:31
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Listen for just under 4 minutes NPR

Israeli Settlements Divide Palestinian Village

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/20/133071...tlement-Update
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Didn't Iranian president threaten to bomb Israel too? Be happy that your 82 year old grandmother has lived such a long life. The way I am tucking into ice cream and peanut butter I won't even make it past 50.
Sorry, but the Iranian president did NOT threaten to bomb Israel. He said that somebody ought to do so

It is fairly clear that he and most Iranians are not of the opinion that Iran should do so. Not least as the Iranian sympathies for the Arab World are rather limited, and their interest in the Levantine coastline is purely strategical. Not so much has changed really since the days of Emperor Cyrus the Great
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Sorry, but the Iranian president did NOT threaten to bomb Israel. He said that somebody ought to do so

It is fairly clear that he and most Iranians are not of the opinion that Iran should do so. Not least as the Iranian sympathies for the Arab World are rather limited, and their interest in the Levantine coastline is purely strategical. Not so much has changed really since the days of Emperor Cyrus the Great
In fact they are still trading- strange world huh?
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Sorry, but the Iranian president did NOT threaten to bomb Israel. He said that somebody ought to do so
You wanna play like that? Ok in that case Israel did not threaten to bomb Hoppy's granny either
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Let me tell you something that we Israelis have against Moses. He took us 40 years through the desert in order to bring us to the one spot in the Middle East that has no oil!
Golda Meir
It sucks when you don't have a GPS...
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Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2

1600 documents about Israel-Palestine peace talks leaked by Aljazeera and The Guardian. The source is from inside the palestinian authorities.

The documents is just a nightmare for Netanyahu & Abbas:
- Netanyahu: documents clearly show that he had partners for the peace talks and that he did not want to make peace. Netanyahu appears really as the guy looking for the status quo and not willing peace.

- Abbas: the compromises presented by PA go far far further than what palestinian people were told. It will have a huge impact on his credibility.

Interesting to explore the documents. Haaretz on the leaks.
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The PA should adopt a new strategy: living in reality.

There are 500,000 Israelis living in the west bank - the Palestinian official line was that all of them will have to move. this is not realistic.

Guess what - behind closed doors the PA agreed this is not realistic.
they were caught out with their own lies.

same applies for the "refugee" issue.

Edit: Abu Mazen says that Al Jazeera took Israeli positions for Palesitinian ones. you couldn't make it up.
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The PA should adopt a new strategy: living in reality.

There are 500,000 Israelis living in the west bank - the Palestinian official line was that all of them will have to move. this is not realistic.

Guess what - behind closed doors the PA agreed this is not realistic.
they were caught out with their own lies.

same applies for the "refugee" issue.

Edit: Abu Mazen says that Al Jazeera took Israeli positions for Palesitinian ones. you couldn't make it up.
So here's another concession from Palestine- what concessions are the Israelis prepared to make?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...akat-says.html

Meanwhile Israel practices sabotage (Stuxnet worm) and terrorism (Mossad blowing up Iranian scientists) in Iran and on top of all that they are threatening to drop part of their massive nuclear armament on my mother-in-law! You don't call this terrorism?

http://article.wn.com/view/2011/01/1...ked_To_Mossad/
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they are threatening to drop part of their massive nuclear armament on my mother-in-law!
... and you're complaining about it?

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