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Old 03.10.2011, 22:21
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Re: Knox case...

Well, she still owes a few 100k to the guy she falsely accused, guess she can pay that from the movie rights.

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Old 03.10.2011, 22:25
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Well, she still owes a few 100k to the guy she falsely accused, guess she can pay that from the movie rights.

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There will be movies, books, magazine covers the lot coming out of this....
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Re: Knox case...

The PR firm, the pressure by the media etc no doubt played its part. The saddest thing in all this is that there neither is any closure for the victim's family, nor is there any justice for the victim. If Knox and her ex didn't do it, then who did? Can't imagine what the victim's family must be going thru!
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Old 03.10.2011, 22:32
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Re: Knox case...

I thought someone was already in jail for the murder besides Knox and her boyfriend?
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Old 03.10.2011, 22:33
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I thought someone was already in jail for the murder besides Knox and her boyfriend?
Yes, it was legally decided that he did not act alone, that three were involved.

So, who were his accomplices then?

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Old 03.10.2011, 22:36
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Well, she still owes a few 100k to the guy she falsely accused, guess she can pay that from the movie rights.
Why would she pay anything? How is Lumumba going to enforce an Italian judgement in the U.S.?
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Yes, it was legally decided that he did not act alone, that three were involved.

So, who were his accomplices then?

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Precisely! The third guy was sentenced for 30 years but then it was reduced to 16 years. But who were the others then?
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Old 03.10.2011, 22:44
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Well, she still owes a few 100k to the guy she falsely accused, guess she can pay that from the movie rights.

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It is only 20k and she'll make a hell of a lot more out of the movie rights that the US will lap up - question remains though... did she do it?

A court said yes, but the appeal said no - that makes it 1:1... and I believe there were more judges involved in the first trial...
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Old 03.10.2011, 23:01
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Re: Knox case...

I don't think she did it. I just think it takes a LOT of evil in someone to be able to kill someone like that -- so brutally -- and I don't think she has that in her. Besides, I think that creepy police commissioner (the one who thinks all young kids are satan worshipers) had it in his head from day one that she and her boyfriend were guilty, and because of his pride, he wasn't going to let anyone prove him wrong.

I'm happy she's free and hope she can get on with her life.
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Old 03.10.2011, 23:08
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Re: Knox case...

I just cannot get my head around this case. Whilst Amanda does seem to be very odd, with a slim grasp on reality and truth, it is impossible to decide whether or not she is capable of murder. The same applies to her boyfriend. But aren't there still two guy languishing in jail? This is just far too complicated and convoluted for words. My thoughts are with Meredith's parents and sister who have been left high and dry.
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Re: Knox case...

even after some years, the intensity/complication of the case hasn't failed to stun me...

it's painful for all...lots of truth in this world have gone untold...that's unfortunately reality...some things...we will never know...for sure...

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Old 04.10.2011, 08:29
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A court said yes, but the appeal said no - that makes it 1:1...
In any case, there is still at least one more appeal to go, so who knows what will happen?

Could be overturned again (by the Italian supreme court), which means another appeal trial (most likely in absentia), etc.

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Old 04.10.2011, 11:15
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Meredith Kercher murder: Amanda Knox freed

Amanda Knox has just been freed after the Italian court overturned her previous conviction.
What do you all think about this? There are some pretty odd circumstances surrounding Meredith Kercer's murder, which neither Knox or her ex have been able to clarify.
I, personally, don't think she actually committed the murder, but she sure as hell knew about it and is therefore an accessory or witness.
Seems there is going to be a clear UK/US split in opinion over this.
I feel sorry for Meredith Kercher's family, she seems to have been completely forgotten.

EDIt: seems this is already under discussion, so thanks for merging it. I did do a search, honest.
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Old 04.10.2011, 11:23
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Re: Knox case...

I have no more of a clue than anyone else about this case, but I wonder what the circumstances would have been if this had all happened in Texas? Would there still have been any debate after the executions? Just my $ 0.02 against capital punishment.
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Old 04.10.2011, 11:37
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Re: Knox case...

Another good looking white girl gets acquitted.

Movie has already been made. I wonder if she got any royalties though?

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I just think it takes a LOT of evil in someone to be able to kill someone like that -- so brutally -- and I don't think she has that in her.
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But aren't there still two guy languishing in jail?
No. Just 1: Rudy Guede. The other, Patrick Diya Lumumba - the bar owner whom Knox first accused - has been released and is/was suing Knox for false accusation. In acquitting her the judge ordered Knox to pay him €20k in damages.

Couple of things that seem fishy to me:
1) Knox accused Lumumba of the crime and he was acquitted
2) the alibies of Knox and Sollecito were changed, and changed again and still didn't quite match up at the end, even though they were inter-reliant
3) I don't like it when "snitches" turn up, having heard the someone else "confess the truth in jail" - that being the case, why wasn't Guede brought up to confirm or deny this?

Anyway, she's now officially free and innocent, and if I am to be a "good citizen" then I'll treat her as an innocent "victim".

As I said, I look forward to seeing the movie about the victimisation of Americans abroad...
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If she was a muscluar black guy called Tyrone then everyone would think (s)he's guilty.
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If she was a muscluar black guy called Tyrone then everyone would think she's guilty.
Let the fun begin...

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The other, Patrick Diya Lumumba - the bar owner whom Knox first accused - has been released and is/was suing Knox for false accusation. In acquitting her the judge ordered Knox to pay him €20k in damages.
She was acquitted of the murder charge. She got three years for false accusation.
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Old 04.10.2011, 12:01
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Re: Knox case...

Stating the blatantly obvious here, but as the Brit girl was raped, then there was DNA evidence. What were the findings there?
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Old 04.10.2011, 12:21
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I feel so sorry for everyone involved in this case. Obviously, the parents and family of the girl who was murdered get my ut-most sympathy, however, I can't help but feel sad for Amanda Knox, who has been accused of the murder too.

One stupid night of alcohol and drugs has robbed her of her most important years. There will be no career, no marriage or children and her family will suffer for the rest of their lives too. What a silly girl.
I don't know whether she did it or not. ( she probably can't remember either if she was so high on drugs!) I think you probably needed to be at the court case to hear ALL the evidence. I hope this will be a lesson to anyone thinking of going down the same path.

Amanda Knox and her ex-boyfriend have many years in their cells to regret this, It's a very sad case indeed for all concerned. I would be terrified of the consequences ahead and she's a very young girl, I really don't know how she will cope, especially without her family closeby.
One stupid night of alcohol and drugs...? I think that same phrase can be said about a lot of crimes committed through out the world. People make their own choices. Drugs are illegal, for the most part, because they do have an effect on people's judgment and actions.
I don't there should be any pity for some one who also stole all the things that she won't have from her victim. It's the least the criminal court system can do.
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