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Old 01.03.2010, 00:31
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Happy to live in a country without a Royal Family.

Given the impending British elections & the choice of Brown or Blair as PM in my home country I'm happy I don't pay any taxes for a (any) regime that supports a Royal Family.

One word about dropping an antiquated, sponging bunch of aristocrats would surely forfeit the prospect of running the British Government for any political party but nothing is ever done to eradicate child poverty, the rich & poor divide, homelessness or acute social problems by any party.

Would Swiss people tolerate any family inheriting land & living off its earnings for doing absolutely sweet FA whilst still claiming unemployment benefit & excusing themselves for this by making personal appearances?

I doubt it.
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Old 01.03.2010, 01:49
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Given the impending British elections & the choice of Brown or Blair as PM in my home country I'm happy I don't pay any taxes for a (any) regime that supports a Royal Family.

One word about dropping an antiquated, sponging bunch of aristocrats would surely forfeit the prospect of running the British Government for any political party but nothing is ever done to eradicate child poverty, the rich & poor divide, homelessness or acute social problems by any party.

Would Swiss people tolerate any family inheriting land & living off its earnings for doing absolutely sweet FA whilst still claiming unemployment benefit & excusing themselves for this by making personal appearances?

I doubt it.
I was told that Switzerland is controlled by about 6 families.

The Swiss banks are full of money stolen from the 3rd world populations.

Your glorious Queen is incorruptible and even pays taxes now.

I didn't realise Blair was running again. Who is the conservative leader these days?
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Old 01.03.2010, 02:08
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I was told that Switzerland is controlled by about 6 families.

The Swiss banks are full of money stolen from the 3rd world populations.

Your glorious Queen is incorruptible and even pays taxes now.

I didn't realise Blair was running again. Who is the conservative leader these days?
Not sure about your points really.

Btw its Camoron!
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Old 01.03.2010, 04:56
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I was told that Switzerland is controlled by about 6 families.

The Swiss banks are full of money stolen from the 3rd world populations.

Your glorious Queen is incorruptible and even pays taxes now.

I didn't realise Blair was running again. Who is the conservative leader these days?
The money you mention was
- stolen by people in these countries
- still is owned by these folks

The leading families, not 6 but rather 60, are not in agreement with each other.

That the Queen pays taxes does not really count. That the whole royal business is helpful for the inbound tourism industry does. And the Royals also are good for the souvenir industry.

Blair ? I always saw him as a "Tory in disguise" .
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Old 01.03.2010, 06:32
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I didn't realise Blair was running again. Who is the conservative leader these days?
Since Brown's the incumbent (and I heard once that he's Labour), and it's pretty much a two-horse race over there, I guess that makes Blair the Tory leader. News to me too.
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Old 01.03.2010, 09:03
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Since Brown's the incumbent (and I heard once that he's Labour), and it's pretty much a two-horse race over there, I guess that makes Blair the Tory leader. News to me too.
The Tories might hire Tony Blair as their leader, while the Labour Party could turn to John Major as new Labour leader
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Re: Happy to live in a country without a Royal Family.

i don't mind the royal family. they do a lot of work in relation to the commonwealth and also bring in tourist dollars.

frankly, i'd be tempted to vote for abandoning democracy and returning to a rule under monarchy.
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Old 01.03.2010, 09:36
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Old 01.03.2010, 09:45
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Re: Happy to live in a country without a Royal Family.

The royal family are fine. I'd much rather support them than all the thieving beggars in Brussels.
Brown and his cronies are crooks, pure and simple. Cameron may not be perfect, but at least it would be a change.

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Old 01.03.2010, 11:45
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The royal family are fine. I'd much rather support them than all the thieving beggars in Brussels.
Brown and his cronies are crooks, pure and simple. Cameron may not be perfect, but at least it would be a change.
I agree on the Brussels issue but I think Brown is more stupid than dishonest...

As for the Royal family keeping the commonwealth going I ask what else do they have to do apart from a bit of charity? Without their commonwealth duties their 'subjects' would realise that just for a few tourist dollars they are an expensive waste of resources. And the commonwealth itself is just a facade for an empire no more..
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I agree on the Brussels issue but I think Brown is more stupid than dishonest...

As for the Royal family keeping the commonwealth going I ask what else do they have to do apart from a bit of charity? Without their commonwealth duties their 'subjects' would realise that just for a few tourist dollars they are an expensive waste of resources. And the commonwealth itself is just a facade for an empire no more..
Have you been listening to Hugo Chavez again, Transition?
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Re: Happy to live in a country without a Royal Family.

likewise i would rather my money went to our royal family , than to faceless meps in brussels. i am also glad that our royalty put quite substantial sums back into the economy and do countless hours of charitable works...i speak from experience..unlike eurofatcats.

they are an important ingredient to britain as a whole , in terms of tradition and heritage and they are far better than unelected leaders or uncontrollable presidents , who are coruuptable .

i think germany regrets ever diminishing their royalty and judging on their reaction to ours ( experienced on various royal tours in germany , denmark , etc) is something they are jealous of .
as for commonwealth , i can also state many islands and territories who have gained independence from the uk have more often than not asked for assistance within ten years

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Old 01.03.2010, 12:00
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Have you been listening to Hugo Chavez again, Transition?
That's a really interesting video you put up, 1'm actually not against monarchy in my home country but when everyone is asked to make cuts I don't see the logic in the Royals having any allowances considering the wealth they have inherited.
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The money you mention was
- stolen by people in these countries
- still is owned by these folks

The leading families, not 6 but rather 60, are not in agreement with each other.

That the Queen pays taxes does not really count. That the whole royal business is helpful for the inbound tourism industry does. And the Royals also are good for the souvenir industry.

Blair ? I always saw him as a "Tory in disguise" .
I thought Swiss Banks only encouraged and practised Ethical Banking

Ownership is just in the name, quite a lot of this money stays with the bank and nobody knows about it, being secret, and eventually becomes property of the bank. Also banks dont need to own money, as long as they can use that money. Owning the money would mean owning the risk associated to it as well!

As for Royal family, they are much more powerful than you think, more than tourist dollars, if what I was told by a Law student is true i.e. The Queen owns all of the land in England/UK and if she was to ask anyone to vacate their property, you cannot challenge it in the court.

Not saying she would do it, but she can.
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As for Royal family, they are much more powerful than you think, more than tourist dollars, if what I was told by a Law student is true i.e. The Queen owns all of the land in England/UK and if she was to ask anyone to vacate their property, you cannot challenge it in the court.

Not saying she would do it, but she can.
I once worked for Andrew Lloyd-Webber & saw first-hand what lengths that w@nker Prince Andrew would go to to capitalize on his Windsor surname. With all the hangers-on (Princesses Eugenie/Beatrice, Duchess of York. Prince Michael to name a few) milking the system for their own means I detest paying taxes for all of these to squander.
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I once worked for Andrew Lloyd-Webber & saw first-hand what lengths that w@nker Prince Andrew would go to to capitalize on his Windsor surname. With all the hangers-on (Princesses Eugenie/Beatrice, Duchess of York. Prince Michael to name a few) milking the system for their own means I detest paying taxes for all of these to squander.
Prince Andrew is a stupid businessman, quite true to what stated. But playing a Royal family is a dirty game, can be fun and intoxicating too.

The last Cszar of Russia, Nicholas was first cousin of King George... not surprising the similarities iin looks there... was abandoned by him and other Royals on Europe during the Bolshevik revolution. They rather sympathised with the Greek connection

After the fall of Ottomans of Turkey, they were given refuge the Royal family of England, funny how these things work and they come with their own economies!

All, the peasants can do is pay their due Taxes, which is like Protection Money (as to Mafia) or else the King's soldiers would come around and beat you up or put you and your family in jail!
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Old 01.03.2010, 12:26
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What percentage of your UK tax bill went into the maintenance of Her Maj. and hangers on?
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I once worked for Andrew Lloyd-Webber & saw first-hand what lengths that w@nker Prince Andrew would go to to capitalize on his Windsor surname. With all the hangers-on (Princesses Eugenie/Beatrice, Duchess of York. Prince Michael to name a few) milking the system for their own means I detest paying taxes for all of these to squander.
You live in Luzern and pay taxes in the UK?
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What percentage of your UK tax bill went into the maintenance of Her Maj. and hangers on?
Isn't it 1 pee out of every pound or something similar?

Put us out of our misery NotAllThere.

Personally, I don't give a stuff, but if pushed would probably find myself on the pro-M side. At least you know what you're getting and their views tend to be for the long term rather than the 2-3 years that the electoral memory lasts.

The UK would be a poorer place without the Monarchy. It would be richer without politicians.
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What percentage of your UK tax bill went into the maintenance of Her Maj. and hangers on?
How would I know that? I think like most of these issues, it is NOT transparent, if it was it would make them look even worse.

You could ask a similar question; what percentage of my tax bill goes towards making my country better in terms of eradicating poverty, supporting those that need help, child poverty, education & healthcare because it seemed at the time (I was living there) that it made no difference.
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