Modern western culture superior to any other culture ever? - Page 7

Morrell · #**121** 23.06.2010, 14:49

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	America is overrated. Everyone knows that

true,
but understandably so.

portsmouth68 · #**122** 23.06.2010, 14:50

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	I did... I said never been to Jamaica hence I cannot comment. In my example I was just trying to highlight even within one country there are vast cultural differences. Here it is: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1825925.html This guy obviously did'nt get killed. There are gay pick up guys operating in parts of Karachi (expensive parts) ... They did'nt killed either. Yes.. tiny upper middle class does not represt it, but if the uppder middle class was to expand, economic well being, the sentiment culture would expand also. Which was my original point... culture is often influenced by material well being. Rejecting Allah, God and religion openly, would seriously depend upon which neighbourhood you open your mouth in. In some parts you can indulge in "Yo Momma" kind of jokes and in some parts you can get shot point blank for saying a word about someone's family.

Denouncing Jesus in the deep South of America will also get you in serious trouble. I saw it on Top Gear, it must be true.....

Dervaish · #**123** 23.06.2010, 14:55

	Quote:	portsmouth68
	Denouncing Jesus in the deep South of America will also get you in serious trouble. I saw it on Top Gear, it must be true.....

Saying "English football team is Shyte" in some council states in UK, would get you the same result

portsmouth68 · #**124** 23.06.2010, 14:57

	Quote:	Dervaish
	Saying "English football team is Shyte" in some council states in UK, would get you the same result

Actually I have to disagree with you there.. Everybody know that the English team is crap and you'd probably get inviting in for a cup of tea or a glass of Port venting such opinion.

Dervaish · #**125** 23.06.2010, 15:07

	Quote:	portsmouth68
	Actually I have to disagree with you there.. Everybody know that the English team is crap and you'd probably get inviting in for a cup of tea or a glass of Port venting such opinion.

How dare you disagree with my views!

I take it you intolerant of them

scribble · #**126** 23.06.2010, 15:09

	Quote:	Dervaish
	This guy obviously did'nt get killed. There are gay pick up guys operating in parts of Karachi (expensive parts) ... They did'nt killed either.

Even hypocrites have needs

Across the border some Taliban gentlemen sleep with other men and young boys but if you ask them if they are gay they point blank say NO WAY.

Btw I did not ask them personally so don't quote me

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	Yes.. tiny upper middle class does not represt it, but if the uppder middle class was to expand, economic well being, the sentiment culture would expand also.

Maybe maybe not until that time I would stand by my point that currently modern western society (I mean Europe as I don't have much time for America) has got lot more things right than wrong relative to other societies.

Growing middle class in some parts of Asia is equivalent of head going forward but ass staying backwards. What I mean is that if a tiny % of the population goes forward but if majority continues to stay backward then as a whole society is in trouble.

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	Rejecting Allah, God and religion openly, would seriously depend upon which neighbourhood you open your mouth in. In some parts you can indulge in "Yo Momma" kind of jokes and in some parts you can get shot point blank for saying a word about someone's family.

Mamma is real God is not

Dervaish · #**127** 23.06.2010, 15:29

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	Even hypocrites have needs Across the border some Taliban gentlemen sleep with other men and young boys but if you ask them if they are gay they point blank say NO WAY. Btw I did not ask them personally so don't quote me

You will be surprised, again!!!

Taliban is made up political term for everyone wearing a turban, but Pashtuns are often known for their preference for being gays. They even have like proper weddings.. man to man, with full works!!

	Quote:	scribble
	Maybe maybe not until that time I would stand by my point that currently modern western society (I mean Europe as I don't have much time for America) has got lot more things right than wrong relative to other societies. Growing middle class in some parts of Asia is equivalent of head going forward but ass staying backwards. What I mean is that if a tiny % of the population goes forward but if majority continues to stay backward then as a whole society is in trouble.

Smart people can take hints... Average people believe when they see it... Stupid and arrogants deny it even when they see it

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	Mamma is real God is not

For them both are

flavio · #**128** 25.12.2010, 13:02

	Quote:	portsmouth68
	I didn't say that I thought the others were better just different....

You should excercise a bit more the good or bad judging part of your brain that everyone has. Deeming cultures (or religions) better or worse from a moral value perspective is something we should be doing more.

How does this work?

Faltrad · #**129** 25.12.2010, 14:56

	Quote:	Dervaish
	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1825925.html

Arifa Akhbar said: Emotionally, I had always felt as if I was a woman."
Here you have it: it is NOT a gay issue.

flavio · #**130** 31.12.2010, 15:13

The combination of nuclear weapons and a culture that creates laws for sentencing people to death for religious reasons is something really frightening.

Pakistan on strike against bill to amend blasphemy law
A 24-hour strike organised by Sunni Muslim clerics is taking place across Pakistan to protest against possible changes to blasphemy laws.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12097687

KeinFranzösisch · #**131** 31.12.2010, 15:39

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	I am not the kind of guy who thinks everything is equal equal everywhere. So for example I don't buy views that all religions, cultures, nations, customs etc are equal or have similar merit. Some things in life are equal, some better and some worse. The politically correct and fashionable view that all cultures have equal merit in my opinion is just bull. So my view is that current modern western way of life is quiet cool. The personal freedoms and choices available are probably unprecedented in human history. Freedom of speech, democracy, no death penalty, sexual freedom, gay rights, people not anal about religion, more gender equality, comparatively lower corruption, lack of forced marriages, no honour killings, wife beating socially not accepted....... I could go on forever. Are there not problems in the west? Sure there are many but on the whole I feel the positives outweigh the negatives more than in any other part of the world. I was born in the east and have lived sizeable early chunk of my life there but I have lived majority in the west so I do know roughly what I am talking about. I enjoy and appreciate aspects of various cultures but western culture is where I feel at home and I think it is superior to any other way of life I have come across. People get so attached to the culture they were born in that they can never look past it and get all worked up when someone points out valid and constructive faults. Call me a traitor but I see things for what they are If I thought there were better places in the world then I surely would move there. Now that I have placed fuel and dry wood together......what say you?

I think that each culture and society has something great to offer and teach others.

One thing I appreciate about Eastern cultures is the sense of modesty, the value of family, and the role of Buddhism with respect to teaching respect for all living things.

But what I like about Western cultures is the sanitation, the plentitude of food, and the fact that we eat a lot of meat. I also enjoy that we can grow to be 40 years of age, remain unmarried, and nobody bats an eye.

flavio · #**132** 01.01.2011, 09:05

	Quote:	KeinFranzösisch
	I think that each culture and society has something great to offer and teach others.

I think the question of the thread was if western culture is superior, not if every culture has something nice to offer.
So, what is your take? wishy-washy we are the world, we are the people, lets leave in peace nicely together?

flavio · #**133** 05.02.2011, 21:46

Another prime minister that says that multiculturalism is a failure and that policies must be changed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/wo...n.html?_r=1&hp

"We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values. So when a white person holds objectionable views — racism, for example — we rightly condemn them. But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn’t white, we’ve been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them."

Gastro Gnome · #**134** 07.02.2011, 11:26

#**135** 07.02.2011, 19:30

Everyone talks about their culture with very high regard. However, do we know what exactly culture is?

can anyone help discover the meaning of culture and its significance in the life of an individual and society.

According to English Anthropologist Edward B Taylor, culture is that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, law, morals, custom, and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society.