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Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

Then look no further. As soon as Ron Paul announces his candidacy for 2012, there will be thousands of patriots donating $100 each for a money bomb, to raise $10,000,000 immediately.

Remember, Rasmussen polls put him at 41%, and the current occupant in the White House at 42%.

Ron Paul's major platform. Bring the troops home. Eliminate the income tax and the IRS (100% of income tax goes to banks to pay interest on money they create from nothing at all and that is a fact).

Here is where to register for the money bomb: http://www.runronpaul.com

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Old 22.08.2010, 07:27
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

You know, I want to like Ron Paul. Really. He's got some ideas that I like.

But whackos running around claiming that "100% of income tax goes to banks to pay interest on money they create from nothing at all and that is a fact" don't really help his cause.

Could you kindly link to an authoritative source on this so-called "fact"?

after this, i'm done with US politics for the year. just 7 more years till Swiss citizenship... 7 more years...
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Old 22.08.2010, 08:45
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

I think often people confusing "fact" with "axiom"
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Old 22.08.2010, 08:57
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

Could he ban Swiss taxes too? I don't like paying those either...
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Old 22.08.2010, 13:14
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

yeah no taxes sure that'll work

as if that hasn't contributed to a huge amount of the current governement issues at the state level in america right now let alone the federal screw ups
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Old 22.08.2010, 13:20
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

If he can ban taxes for expatriates, I will be happy.

For Switzerland, I have Canton Zug.
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Old 22.08.2010, 13:26
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

Yeah and do away with the "unconstitutional" stuff like the civil rights act (according to Ron Paul) of 1964 or Roe v. Wade. That would make the US such a modern place...not.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

I like Ron Paul because of what Ron Paul says and stands for, not because of what other people — wackos included — have claimed. I say do your own homework, and learn what Dr. Paul actually says and why. He's written several books, and much more (see here and here, for example). For the most part, he has been consistent and true to the same perspective for decades, not caving to popular opinion or political winds. You can do your own homeowrk and like what he stands for and support him for it, or not. But please don't let the questionable claims of others — including EFers — serve as the basis of your judgment.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

I think thats the new president right there.Not starting a political debate here but Obama should have never been in office. Well I do not really care since im not American.

I must admit he had one hell of a mess to clean up but not much has changed since he took presidency....

This guy for some reason looks like he has it in him to change the Us back to what it used to be or at least set in back on track
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Old 24.08.2010, 15:11
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

Ron Paul for me is the only sane voice in Washington. I have listened to many speeches and debates of his on so many topics, he is very intelligent, has a lot of integrity and doesn't cater to specific audiences. That is enough to make me like him, even though I find he goes way too far in wanting to decentralise the US, privatise education and cut taxes.
I would like to second what Texaner sais, don't judge Ron Paul on recycled opinions or by some of his followers, just listen to him first hand and make up your mind.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

Are you guys for real? These are well known positions of Ron Paul, well documented too. Proof can be found using such "left-wing-wacko-sources" as the library of congress or Ron Pauls own website.

Roe v. Wade
H.R. 776 Sanctity of Life Act of 2005
thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.776:

Civil rights act of 1964
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/civil-rights-act/


While in this speech (given to the left-wing-wacko-organisation called the U.S. Congress..) some of his points were somewhat valid on their own (the use of quota can create resistance), they actually apply to the consequences of the affirmative action legislation and not to ending racial segregation in public schools or the application of unequal criteria for voter registration.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

I really, really like Ron Paul. His policies and ideas are a bit out
of the current accepted political thought, but they make sense
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He is not that charismatic but very intelligent. That may hold him back
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

@ SamWeiseVielleicht:
I can only agree with his views on this topic, especially this paragraph:

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Ron Paul for me is the only sane voice in Washington. I have listened to many speeches and debates of his on so many topics, he is very intelligent, has a lot of integrity and doesn't cater to specific audiences.
I wouldn't say the only sane voice is Washington, but I agree for the most part. It was so strange to see him actually making sense at the Republican primary debates and not resorting to empty words and talking points. The other candidates were dumbfounded, so was most of the audience.

By the time he said Americans should have never even been in Iraq, the audience turned on him.

It'd be great if he became President, but he'll die in an "accident" if he ever comes within a stone's throw of it.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

If one can only agree with this statement, then one is clearly white. I wonder how many African-Americans share this view?
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If one can only agree with this statement, then one is clearly white. I wonder how many African-Americans share this view?
I've personally met several.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

@simon_ch: You have to take into consideration that the CRA was passed in 1964. This is not about 2010 (or 2004).

"this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife."

Efforts by whom? The opponents of the act in 1963-64. I have some serious doubts about that...

Was the CRA perfect? Probably not. But given the circumstances (in 1964) it was an important step forward.

HRES 676 (which Paul rejected) thus sought to "encourage all Americans to recognize and celebrate the important historical milestone of (...) the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
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I think thats the new president right there.Not starting a political debate here but Obama should have never been in office. Well I do not really care since im not American.

I must admit he had one hell of a mess to clean up but not much has changed since he took presidency....

This guy for some reason looks like he has it in him to change the Us back to what it used to be or at least set in back on track
I'd never heard of the guy before I stumbled upon this thread, but I was thinking much the same thing. This guy looks as though he has the stuff to make him the next president.
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Old 24.08.2010, 19:14
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@simon_ch: You have to take into consideration that the CRA was passed in 1964. This is not about 2010 (or 2004).

"this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife."

Efforts by whom? The opponents of the act in 1963-64. I have some serious doubts about that...

Was the CRA perfect? Probably not. But given the circumstances (in 1964) it was an important step forward.

HRES 676 (which Paul rejected) thus sought to "encourage all Americans to recognize and celebrate the important historical milestone of (...) the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
Well he does admit that the resolution was well-intentioned and has all the right goals but thinks that it failed to achieve what it was set to do and therefore disagrees with the CRA as it is today, or at least that's how I understand it. But let's agree to disagree and not get into technicalities.
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Re: Americans Who Dislike Paying Taxes

the main stream media did an attack on Rand Paul and they make hypothetical questions up. You can follow the Constitution and let things progress at their own pace, or you can be a dictator and and cause threats and intimidate society. I prefer the Constitutional method. Besides Rachel Maddow is a feminist lesbian who asked Rand Paul about the Civil Rights Act out of nowhere, and everyone knows that feminism was created to destroy the family and take men away from women so as to tax twice the population, and create daycare camps, just like Hitler did. wake up you people. It's not about liberation. It's about control.

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