Have you considered work as a double glazing salesman ?

I actually agree with you - "Administrative detention" (Which Israel does, as inherited from the British Mandate) is probably not needed in the Netherlands. Even if it means a few dead civilians every now and then. Freedom has it's price.

"So, Mr B. I see you have a family of Islamists living next door. In such circumstances, I can recommend this toughened glass, guaranteed to protect your family from bomb blasts, gun fire and the smell of curried goat. This particular model also has an LCD dimming feature, so you don't have to look at those awful women in their tent outfits. 500 000 CHF, cheap at half the price!"

Back to topic:
The tribunal called Wafa Sultan as an expert on islam. She nuked the coran. Literally. With such a support, Wilders uses this proces as a political scene. And he is succeding. Wilders' words can be very harsh, but always but into perspective. Isolated, a statement can be a huge scandal, but then, read the rest of the sentense.

Example: He said "Coran is worse han Mein Kampf".
Full sentense: "Coran is worse than Mein Kampf because Mein Kampf is a political book, the coran is a mix of politics and religion. It is easier to overcome a political ideology than a political ideology packed in a religious ideology."

Wilders knows that the public will only keep the fist part in mind, relate it to the images and critics he makes and get his message through. But his words in context have nothing to be sent to court for. And that method is widely used by Wilders to communicate at two levels. Call that strategy.

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Es wird nichts ausgelassen, um mich hier herauszuekeln. Ein Lehrbuch. False accusations and attacks continue. There is no stopping righteous people when they are wrong.

How is this "On topic" ?

Civilians get killed all the time by criminals.

If you're dead, you're dead. It doesn't feel any better to be stabbed for your wallet than to be blown to smithereens by a jihadi.

If someone smashes your new double glazed windows, or tries to set fire to your church and your mayor tells you just tells you to grin and bear it and that you share part of the blame and must discuss things maturly with your new neighbour - I'm sure that's what you'll do ?

Yep, that is a toughie. And yet, if you read the Bible, that is exactly what it asks you to do if you are a Christian.

I'd call the police, and let them deal with it.

A Muslim criminal is no different to any other kind of criminal. Why should they be treated any differently to any other vandal or arsonist if they smash windows or burn down churches?

The police was called, but did nothing. The mayor of the city, very much aware of his city's new demographics, is not doing anything practical either.

You & your kids are threatend on your way to school & church.

what's your next action ?

the above is sadly not fiction.

Vote for another mayor? I don't know. Where is this happening? Some city where the police don't do anything about arson? It doesn't sound like any city I've ever visited or lived in.

What point are you trying to make, here, Pashosh?

The city exists in europe and its name will be revealed. you could be there in less than 2 hours flight.

Vote for another mayor who will have to depend on Muslim votes ? hardly a solution.

My point ? Islamist violence is already in Europe, it can not be argued away, nor does it seem to wane.

Criminals break peoples windows all the time, but when they break your windows again and again and the police just tells you to get plexiglass your patience wears very thin.

Spit it out, then.

Not until somene comes up with a solution which doesn't involve magic and/or name calling.

Do you have any idea WHY they have targeted your Church? Is this random violence in your opinion - or did something trigger this situation?

Well, don't bother, then, because I'm tired of playing silly games based on hypothetical nonsense.

If it's a real city, please name it and provide some links to the incidents you say happened there.

If you are simply making it up to prove a point, then please show us the courtesy of admitting it, as I admitted that the tale of Mashwood Heath was an illustrative fable.

This is getting boring.

The Church, the cemetary - many times.

Reason: Islamist hate.

Come on people - this is not a joke, but a real problem happening to real people right now.

How can we stop this ?

Its not hypothetical - I wish it was, but it isn't.

I'll give you a hint: The city where this is happening is north of here, has a good police force & rule of law.

Meet the leaders, talk, try to understand the issues - stopping the hatred might have to start with YOU somehow. It is one of the hardest thing to do- and yet it is what Jesus would expect of you, according to the Bible. It is not so long ago that the Catholics and Protestants were burning each other as heretics. Even in the late 40s when my parents got married, he a Catholic, she a divorced Protestant - had to suffer family and social hell to be get married. Islam and Christianity are closely related- and should try to understand each other better - humility and forgiveness + reaching out might be a good start.

The attacked community did not retliate in force:
Discussions were held, nice words said, hands shaken - The violence didn't stop.

now what ?