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dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

dying for a drink...... this is ridiculous! is there anyone who can justify this?


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The population is kept in fear of authority because of these rules and laws that can be (mis)interpreted on the say-so of a few, probably self appointed, leaders. You don't even know you've made a slip up and the next thing you know they are signing a death warrant.

Very effective, don't you think?
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is there anyone who can justify this?

You will ALWAYS find someone to justify stuff, even if it's the most horrible thing.


Welcome on the planet of the humans.

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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

Once again, we trample humanity in the name of God. How can anybody reconcile the terrors and wrongs done in the name of religion? How many stories like this do we need to see where the "righteous" are allowed to kill?

China, Pakistan, Saudi.... The list goes on. We can at least say it

We need Free speech and governments and courts free from influence of religion, myths & superstition.

I wish we could do something but instead I despair at the repeated wrongs of humanity
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

I'd love to say i'm surprised... but it's an extreme islamist country with one foot in the dark ages, so... i'm not. Poor woman, and poor husband. I hope she (however unlikely) wins her appeal.

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You will ALWAYS find someone to justify stuff, even if it's the most horrible thing.


Welcome on the planet of the humans.

Taking a queue here:
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!

Reading a bit between the lines, it seems that the other woman have been envious of the woman.
Much like those shouting "she is a witch, burn her" cries.
She seemed to have a bit more wealth that the others wanted.
The tool they used to get rid of her was blasphemy.
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Old 12.11.2010, 10:26
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I love Pakistan.

Pakistani day:

Drink sweet tea
Burn Israeli flag
Lunch
Stone child for being raped by her uncle
Drink sweet tea
Burn effigy of George Bush
Play Backgammon
Dinner
Make more flags and effigies for tomorrow
Sleep

I wonder why they didn't attract more aid recently
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I love Pakistan.

Pakistani day:

Drink sweet tea
Burn Israeli flag
Lunch
Stone child for being raped by her uncle
Drink sweet tea
Burn effigy of George Bush
Play Backgammon
Dinner
Make more flags and effigies for tomorrow
Sleep

I wonder why they didn't attract more aid recently
Was that not the 13 year old girl recently stoned in Somalia? Or am I thinking of another one?
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

The world will be watching, with great interest, the decision made by the Lahore high court if the husband appeals against the decision.

I believe they will overturn the ruling by the local court.
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

OK, I'm having a slow day: why exactly is she sentenced to death? For not bringing water to the men or for touching the bowl or for what? Oh dear, when will this world stop its cruelty for no reason?! (feel free to make fun of my naivete...)
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OK, I'm having a slow day: why exactly is she sentenced to death? For not bringing water to the men or for touching the bowl or for what? Oh dear, when will this world stop its cruelty for no reason?! (feel free to make fun of my naivete...)
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A few days later the women went to a local cleric and alleged that Ms Bibi made made derogatory remarks about the Prophet Muhammad.
Having a pop at the Prophet can only land you in trouble - look at that Danish cartoonist...
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I'd love to say i'm surprised... but it's an extreme islamist country with one foot in the dark ages, so... i'm not. Poor woman, and poor husband. I hope she (however unlikely) wins her appeal.
And then her life is still at risk.

Last July, two Christian brothers accused of writing a blasphemous pamphlet critical of the Prophet Muhammad were shot dead outside a court in Punjab.

Pastor Rashid Emmanuel, 32, and his brother Sajjad, were killed as they left a court hearing in Faisalabad city, where hundreds of Muslim protesters had demanded they be sentenced to death.


The fact is, if a Muslim doesn't like a Christian in Pakistan, and is sufficiently vindictive, then the Muslim can make a complaint of blasphemy against the Christian, and it will probably be upheld. The truth of the matter is irrelevant.
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So basically, they prophet from her death.
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

When the world will stop to used religion as an excuse to control the population? When this religion non-sense will stop?

I claim this land because of this book, I kill you because you say this taboo word, I rape you because Jo Blow assume that was what the book said... Don't use condoms because it is against the book....

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When the world will stop to used religion as an excuse to control the population? When this religion non-sense will stop?

I claim this land because of this book, I kill you because you say this taboo word, I rape you because Jo Blow assume that was what the book said... Don't use condoms because it is against the book....

This is the thing Nil - they are using religion as you say. Religion is not the cause - these are primitive people doing primitive things. They were doing it before Islam and they'll be doing it after.
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

maybe it's human hope that makes so many cling to the myth of eternity and swallow the twaddle in the books.

I think you're born, you do some stuff and then you're dead. that's about it. A very liberating belief and I don't need to go out and hurt anyone in the name of a book
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This is the thing Nil - they are using religion as you say. Religion is not the cause - these are primitive people doing primitive things. They were doing it before Islam and they'll be doing it after.
And mix in a smattering of corrupt politicians at every level and you get Pakistan.
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This is the thing Nil - they are using religion as you say. Religion is not the cause - these are primitive people doing primitive things. They were doing it before Islam and they'll be doing it after.
I think you're right in this case: Even though this is close to Lahore, rural Pakistan is shockingly primitive. I am struck however at how many educated travelled and worldly people tacitly allow these things to continue.

As usual, free speech and education, free from religion, provide a possible hope
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This is the thing Nil - they are using religion as you say. Religion is not the cause - these are primitive people doing primitive things. They were doing it before Islam and they'll be doing it after.
I am not sure this is primitive. I believe this is in the human nature. Look at the recent past with the Holocaust. A majority of Germans supported Hitler's politics and ideas. They have an exposition about this in Berlin right now.

I believe that human are really easy to manipulate and you can do a lot with them. Look how Catholic Church manipulated the historic facts for their own good. Look at Cambodia. This population always had historically and culturally a peaceful mindset where agressivity was non-existant in their behavior. And Pol Pot was able to turn a lot of them in sadist killers responsible of one of the biggest genocide...

Human being is weak and easy to manipulated.
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Re: dying for a drink (death sentence for Pakistani woman)

Yesterday I saw a very very interesting documentary on Swiss TV (I know!!!) It was about manipulations and most of us, if not a majority will fall into all those technics.

Jealousy, anger, hate and hope makes human do a lot of bad things to achieve what they want...
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