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You bring up excellent points and I cannot argue with your views. Those are a few of the things that I also really enjoy about living here, but for whatever reason, I cannot convince myself that I AM myself here. I'm trying hard to fit in and like it, but after 2 years I am wondering if that day will come. Day to day life is great, but being without my family and being able to make close friendships makes it really hard. My German is good. I can get what I need and feel confident. But it's still not enough for me to, for example, take the continuing education course I want to increase my career opportunities. In my mind, CH holds me back in that sense. I worry about not being able to get to my family in an emergency or something like that. So I'm caught between the good "things" in life as you mentioned and the good "people" in life that I am missing.
Thanks for your thoughts. Good things for me to remember. Oh and I do miss Mexican food, sunshine, Target, frozen yogurt and sushi. Ha ha.

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Well, Ashlee, you really wanna know?
OK, here goes:

- Here I have 6 weeks paid vacation (vs. 2-3 in the US, and God forbid you take them together, or someone will be gunning for your job)
- Skiing: awesome slopes within 1.5 hours here. In California, 4-5 hours driving up to Tahoe, and usually up on Friday night, back on Sunday night.
- Proximity to Italy, France, Germany, Austria...heck even within Switzerland you have Valais, Ticino, Engadine...the closest cultural equivalent in California would be a cheesy theme park.
- Opportunity to really learn a 2nd language: priceless
- Awesome mountain biking and hiking very near by...also hang gliding, parasailing, ballooning
- Great public transport...awesome tastey clean water flowing out of street corner fountains and your own tap
- Safe
- Excellent career opps: my diploma together with English and basic German puts me in an awesome niche for high paying jobs
- Family: absolutely great place to raise children
- Chocolate and cheese
- Stunning scenery
- Stable investment opps: Swiss Franc and Swiss realestate...I know of no other investment in the world more reliable than that
- Tax: here I pay a bit over 20 percent in tax and other deductions...in the US it was 35 percent.
- Direct democracy...here you really vote for people and initiatives...in the US you vote for people who vote for you, and guess who they are really looking out for

Oh, sorry, you said 3-5. I could go on....what's your reasons? Lemme guess, Mexican food?
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You bring up excellent points and I cannot argue with your views. Those are a few of the things that I also really enjoy about living here, but for whatever reason, I cannot convince myself that I AM myself here. I'm trying hard to fit in and like it, but after 2 years I am wondering if that day will come. Day to day life is great, but being without my family and being able to make close friendships makes it really hard. My German is good. I can get what I need and feel confident. But it's still not enough for me to, for example, take the continuing education course I want to increase my career opportunities. In my mind, CH holds me back in that sense. I worry about not being able to get to my family in an emergency or something like that. So I'm caught between the good "things" in life as you mentioned and the good "people" in life that I am missing.
Thanks for your thoughts. Good things for me to remember. Oh and I do miss Mexican food, sunshine, Target, frozen yogurt and sushi. Ha ha.
Well Ashlee, I would have to admit I felt like a fish out of water here many times on many occasions for various reasons (missing family, was alone, couldn't find a flat, couldn't find a job, no friends, finding friends only to have them leave Switzerland, not able to speak German, etc. a lot happens over 24 years... now I am married with 2 kids born here, got Swiss citizenship, bought a house, speak German (now taking a Swiss German course), have a great job (again, I've had some real lemons before)...here a couple tips to help you out: Sushi? The only Japanese restaurant that is near CA quality is restaurant Samurai http://www.samurai7.ch/ or if you have access to a car, slightly outside ZH http://www.hotel-hasenberg.ch/ the latter has a view to die for (and a Michelin star). Mexican food, well, there are a couple that are OK, http://www.treskilos.ch, www.tresamigos.ch, but better to make your own: this Mexican food store behind the Zurich Main Station has everything you could want: www.elmaiz.ch and for sunshine, this Saturday will be sunny and 29 degrees, that's 84 deg. F! If you want a Target like store, try the Gant Center in Saint Louis France (right next to Basel, and they have an awesome seafood section unlike any in CH). Frozen yoghurt I can't help you with, I never was really a fan....one last tip: you can watch all US TV shows online via www.hulu.com, you just need to install a special piece of free software, PM me and I will tell you how...
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Thank you VERY MUCH for the tips, Karl. Now I have something to do every weekend for the rest of the year! Ha ha. I'm sure life might get easier, but to be honest, I am resisting it. I don't want to get comfy here because the bigger part of me still wants to be home. I've known others (like yourself) that have totally adapted and even learned Swiss German as you are. So, maybe I am one of those people and I just don't know it yet. :-) In the meantime, I will keep on keepin' on.

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Well Ashlee, I would have to admit I felt like a fish out of water here many times on many occasions for various reasons (missing family, was alone, couldn't find a flat, couldn't find a job, no friends, finding friends only to have them leave Switzerland, not able to speak German, etc. a lot happens over 24 years... now I am married with 2 kids born here, got Swiss citizenship, bought a house, speak German (now taking a Swiss German course), have a great job (again, I've had some real lemons before)...here a couple tips to help you out: Sushi? The only Japanese restaurant that is near CA quality is restaurant Samurai http://www.samurai7.ch/ or if you have access to a car, slightly outside ZH http://www.hotel-hasenberg.ch/ the latter has a view to die for (and a Michelin star). Mexican food, well, there are a couple that are OK, http://www.treskilos.ch, www.tresamigos.ch, but better to make your own: this Mexican food store behind the Zurich Main Station has everything you could want: www.elmaiz.ch and for sunshine, this Saturday will be sunny and 29 degrees, that's 84 deg. F! If you want a Target like store, try the Gant Center in Saint Louis France (right next to Basel, and they have an awesome seafood section unlike any in CH). Frozen yoghurt I can't help you with, I never was really a fan....one last tip: you can watch all US TV shows online via www.hulu.com, you just need to install a special piece of free software, PM me and I will tell you how...
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Thanks for your thoughts. Good things for me to remember. Oh and I do miss Mexican food, sunshine, Target, frozen yogurt and sushi. Ha ha.
Hey Ashlee, I'm from California and I know exactly how you feel especially about the Mexican food. I miss it so much that I made a Mexican food website www.mexicanfoodzurich.com. I usually just make my own at home, so if you're into cooking you can use some of the recipes I've posted on there. As for sushi... I still haven't found anything I love. What part of Cali are you from?
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..a lot of people swear by this Mexican restaurant in Bremgarten http://www.el-mosquito.ch/ been there twice, once was great (Sunday lunch, so not crowded), once was a disaster (waited over an hour for food because it was so busy).
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Hey Ashlee, I'm from California and I know exactly how you feel especially about the Mexican food. I miss it so much that I made a Mexican food website www.mexicanfoodzurich.com. I usually just make my own at home, so if you're into cooking you can use some of the recipes I've posted on there. As for sushi... I still haven't found anything I love. What part of Cali are you from?
I would second this advice. The Mexican restaurants here have been largely disappointing. I will look at the website the next time I am
ready for something Mexican.
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Thanks for the tip. I think I am starting to accept that I just have to cook from home. I mean always did in CA, but sometimes going out for Mexican was also a real treat. But maybe I save that for when I go home.

I grew up in Lake Elizabeth in LA County and then went to college at CSU Fullerton.

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Hey Ashlee, I'm from California and I know exactly how you feel especially about the Mexican food. I miss it so much that I made a Mexican food website www.mexicanfoodzurich.com. I usually just make my own at home, so if you're into cooking you can use some of the recipes I've posted on there. As for sushi... I still haven't found anything I love. What part of Cali are you from?
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Thanks for the tip. I think I am starting to accept that I just have to cook from home. I mean always did in CA, but sometimes going out for Mexican was also a real treat. But maybe I save that for when I go home.

I grew up in Lake Elizabeth in LA County and then went to college at CSU Fullerton.

Where are you from?
I totally agree with you. It's so nice to quickly order some cheap greasy Mexican food and that's exactly what I do when I go back to Cali. It makes it even better.

I grew up in San Bernardino and graduated from San Diego State University. I've really lived all over though. I lived in Davis, CA and also had an apartment in West Hollywood up until a day ago (my dad moved out for me ).
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This thread makes me laugh because my husband and I moved here from SF and often discuss how much we miss good and cheap avocados!
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Agreed. Spent 10 years in SF prior to coming here and eh... definitely not convinced to stay. I'm even taking the German BF back with me.
I too miss a lot of things about SF and Cali in general. But the grass is always greener, eh?

No matter how "charming" SF is, I DON'T miss the filth, rampant homelessness (even whole families with children), dangerous & filthy public transportation, and the 'bridge & tunnel' gangs involved in shootings and stabbings every weekend.
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I too miss a lot of things about SF and Cali in general. But the grass is always greener, eh?

No matter how "charming" SF is, I DON'T miss the filth, rampant homelessness (even whole families with children), dangerous & filthy public transportation, and the 'bridge & tunnel' gangs involved in shootings and stabbings every weekend.
I worked in SF and would have to agree with all that, but I love San Diego. Although I wouldn't want to live in Cali 100%, I also don't want to live in Zurich 100%, so I opt for an apartment in both cities. So far that's been the best for me. As soon as the grass starts looking greener on the other side, I just fly on over
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I totally agree with you. It's so nice to quickly order some cheap greasy Mexican food and that's exactly what I do when I go back to Cali. It makes it even better.

I grew up in San Bernardino and graduated from San Diego State University. I've really lived all over though. I lived in Davis, CA and also had an apartment in West Hollywood up until a day ago (my dad moved out for me ).
I just finished my Master's at SDSU .
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This thread makes me laugh because my husband and I moved here from SF and often discuss how much we miss good and cheap avocados!
Avocados? That's one thing I never have a problem finding here in abundance, I don't get it.
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Avocados? That's one thing I never have a problem finding here in abundance, I don't get it.
You might find them in abundance, but in Cali they're much cheaper which is what I think she's talking about.
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I just finished my Master's at SDSU .
Very cool. What program were you in?
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You might find them in abundance, but in Cali they're much cheaper which is what I think she's talking about.
Well, what's not cheaper in California than here? Especially with the current exchange rate.
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Well, what's not cheaper in California than here? Especially with the current exchange rate.
Precisely, which is exactly why I can't wait for my December visit home when I'll be checking two empty suitcases. Gotta love that exchange rate.
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Precisely, which is exactly why I can't wait for my December visit home when I'll be checking two empty suitcases. Gotta love that exchange rate.
...average in the round trip air fare to California and that Swiss avocado suddenly doesn't look so expensive..
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Very cool. What program were you in?
I finished my MS in Applied Math and now I'm working on my PhD here. My girlfriend was just telling me about a bonfire she was at at Paradise Point... makes me miss the beach
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