You are looking for good discussions on topics that are higher than the price of brown sugar? And you came here? Try the off topic section rather than social events. There are occaisionally words of wisdom being given away here, but rarely, oh so rarely. Most people are more concerned whether they will survive in Switzerland with an exploding bank account. Welcome to the forum, have fun, as time permits.

So, Sarastro, do you consider the Pre-Raphaelite movement to be a valid statement against the dehumanisation of the people during the apparently inexorable rise of industry and capitalism, or just a load of reactionary old tosh?

Furthermore, have you ever noticed that Henry Moore wasn't very good at doing heads?

Thanks a lot Starbug for a wise suggestion ;-)

Hard to tell, and however is it dehumanisation what came after the industrial revolution?
Was Ned Ludd a hero or a villain?
What's more human, a Schiele vivisection, a deformed Picasso or a perfectly proportioned Raffaello?

Humanity is a object of art especially when it's naked, feeble, abused and transient.

Cheers,

Gio

So a bit like Shakespeare..... (to quote my "friend" Bertie Wooster)

Among others, yes, I agree :-)

And Turner couldn't do feet.

Hi Sarastro and welcome to the EF.

Here's a recent thread centered around hot tea and delicious biscuits if that helps?

Have fun!

Cheers.

Ishaka, as any other forum member I've instantaneously fallen in love with you.

(it's so hard being serious sometimes, isn't it?).

Thanks for sharing!

Ah, an eccentric misanthrope. You'll fit right in. It's a good thing because your other option was 'emotional porridge'.

Hic manebimus optime
(someone told we it means "I (actually, 'we') will just feel fine here")

Here is a newbie that leaves me speechless.dying to meet him

Is feminist epistemology an oxymoron? And do you like roasting goats before feeding?

Finally, somebody normal...

@ MacGregor's Daughter: far from being totally ironic ... yes, I leave people speechless, until they realize that they can also scream.

@ Uncle Max: Whatever concerns women is, and I steal words from an italian poet, a 'permanent oxymoron'.

@MusicChick: In the good old days, we used to be kept in Montezuma's zoo (but indeed we were not in the cage, they were!). Then 'democracy' arrived, and now we are among millions. We are now outlaws - and what we try/want to to violate are the laws of statistics, i.e. finding, before meeting one millions people, that 'one on a million' that we find 'normal'.

Oh yes, I like this place!

what a load of bollocks

You mean Henry Moore could not have earned a good living on the streets?

I see Will Self has joined the forum, then.

Daddy

PS: That brain .. that's what I call emotional porridge ;-)