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A warm hello to everyone. My husband (who is Swiss) and I will be relocating to Zurich this coming October. Hope to meet some nice people and make some friends on this forum.
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Hi & welcome. If you wanna get some ingredients for cooking just pm me. I know quite a number of places where you can get ingredients and some not too bad chinese restaurants too.
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Hello. Welcome to the forum and to CH, OdissiDancerKL. Do you really dance the Odissi? Do bring some gula melaka when you move here.
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Hi & welcome. If you wanna get some ingredients for cooking just pm me. I know quite a number of places where you can get ingredients and some not too bad chinese restaurants too.
Cherryberrie, would love your tips on good chinese restaurants and where to get ingredients - we've been looking for things like dou chi and Shaoxing cooking wine. Have you tried the Chinese place called Beyond next to the Zürich train station? We had dinner there the other week and it was pretty good!

Also a fan of Malaysian/Singaporean and Indonesian food but am guessing I'd be so lucky to find a restaurant here?!

Oh and welcome OdissiDancerKL. Better bring some sambal with you too
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hello. welcome.
i am from indonesia myself.
enjoy the forum.
and binturong, there's actually a new indonesian restaurant that just opened in oerlikon (if i remember correctly).
just haven't found the time to go there.
it's called 'dapur indonesia' i believe.
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Selamat datang!
I'm Indonesian too and have been here for the past 6 months. Totally missing Indo food. I've lived in Australia for the past 12 years, was so easy to get your fix of Indonesian groceries / ingredients / restaurants... plus it's super cheap. Here I can't even seem to find kecap manis ABC, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough...

Ferdinandaldo I'm definitely going to be checking out that Dapur Indonesia place! Thanks for the tip
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Hello. Welcome to the forum and to CH, OdissiDancerKL. Do you really dance the Odissi? Do bring some gula melaka when you move here.
Thanks Argus! And yes I learnt Odissi for many years but had to give it up when I left Malaysia 2 years ago for work. I studied under Ramli Ibrahim. I love the dance but I have forgotten a lot of the steps due to old age! :-p

Noted on the gula melaka. Will bring tons of it along with me so I can make my favourite nyonya kuih - ondeh ondeh :-)
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Cherryberrie, would love your tips on good chinese restaurants and where to get ingredients - we've been looking for things like dou chi and Shaoxing cooking wine. Have you tried the Chinese place called Beyond next to the Zürich train station? We had dinner there the other week and it was pretty good!

Also a fan of Malaysian/Singaporean and Indonesian food but am guessing I'd be so lucky to find a restaurant here?!

Oh and welcome OdissiDancerKL. Better bring some sambal with you too
Thanks for the welcome binturong beanie. Will stock up on belachan so I can make sambal belachan :-)
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Thanks for the welcome RS13 and ferdinandaldo.

Indonesia is one of my favourite holiday destination. Each Indonesian island is so different and diverse. I absolutely love Indonesian food especially nasi padang and Sundanese food:-)

Will definitely check out Dapur Indonesia once I am in Zurich to get my fix of chillies.

PS: I am going to have nasi padang for lunch later (am still in Kuala Lumpur btw) :-p
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No worries, I am new here myself. Glad to see there are quite a few members from Malaysia, S'pore and Indo here on the forum.

Good idea about the belachan. Gula melaka is not too hard to find though. Funny that you like onde onde! That's my favourite kueh too, although in Java (where I first had them) they called it klepon and onde onde was something else made with red bean paste. If you like your onde onde green then maybe bring some pandan leaf extract with you because I think that is hard to find

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No worries, I am new here myself. Glad to see there are quite a few members from Malaysia, S'pore and Indo here on the forum.

Good idea about the belachan. Gula melaka is not too hard to find though. Funny that you like onde onde! That's my favourite kueh too, although in Java (where I first had them) they called it klepon and onde onde was something else made with red bean paste. If you like your onde onde green then maybe bring some pandan leaf extract with you because I think that is hard to find
Belachan (or belacan) can be confiscated (you could possibly be fined too) by Swiss Customs as it's made from shrimp, so do be careful.

The palm sugar, golden yellow in colour, found in Thai shops here is different from gula melaka (dark brown cylinders or pucks) which is quite rare here; one friend told me she bought it somewhere in canton Zurich.

Refrigerated pandan (screwpine) leaves are sold in the Asian grocery store in the ZHB (go to the end of Platform 18, descend the stairs, turn right and it is there on the left).

Slice up the pandan leaves, place them in a blender with some water and puree them; sieve to extract the very green juice - (great also for making pandan cake, steamed cakes or kuih, and cendol!). Whole leaves boiled in gula melaka syrup is great for making sago gula melaka.
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A warm hello to everyone. My husband (who is Swiss) and I will be relocating to Zurich this coming October. Hope to meet some nice people and make some friends on this forum.
Hello odissidancerkl welcome to forum nice to meet you
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Belachan (or belacan) can be confiscated (you could possibly be fined too) by Swiss Customs as it's made from shrimp...
Why's that then?

You might also want to check out Chinese/Vietnamese supermarkets for these ingredients. For example, Belachan is known as mắm ruốc/mắm tép/mắm tôm (depending on the shrimp used) in Vietnamese. I've also found it in our local Indian food shop.
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You might also want to check out Chinese/Vietnamese supermarkets for these ingredients. For example, Belachan is known as mắm ruốc/mắm tép/mắm tôm (depending on the shrimp used) in Vietnamese. I've also found it in our local Indian food shop.
A friend had her bonito flakes (dried fish flakes from Japan) confiscated when she flew into Zurich. Another friend had her dried pork floss taken from her; she felt like eating it all there and then. The Customs person said meat- or fish-based products are not allowed.

But then again, you can bring 500g raw meat by car across the border back into CH (a Schengen/EU thing?) - boggles the mind.
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Thanks Argus for the information! Will remember not to pack any meat based or fish based products.
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Welcome to Switzerland, odissidancerkl.

One is able to buy belacan at the asian shops in Switzerland.

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A Japanese friend managed to bring bonito flakes (katsuobushi/かつおぶし) with her on the plane when she flew into Zurich recently so maybe it's luck of the draw? Apparently her mum also posts packets to her!

Sadly, I haven't found any katsuobushi here yet either but I did find a box of dashi (a Japanese soup base that is made with katsuobushi) at the Lian Hua grocery store near the Wiedekon train station in Zurich (see map here). I think it was about CHF4. Here's a pic of the box in case that helps.


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But then again, you can bring 500g raw meat by car across the border back into CH (a Schengen/EU thing?) - boggles the mind.
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Argus, you are a mine of info about SE asian food! Thank you for the tip re pandan leaves (and the ZHB grocery store).

I found some gula jawa (again at the Lian Hua asian grocery in Wiedikon) for CHF3.65 - do you know if this is the same as gula melaka? It comes in a dark brown cylinder, as you described - pic below.


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Belachan (or belacan) can be confiscated (you could possibly be fined too) by Swiss Customs as it's made from shrimp, so do be careful.

The palm sugar, golden yellow in colour, found in Thai shops here is different from gula melaka (dark brown cylinders or pucks) which is quite rare here; one friend told me she bought it somewhere in canton Zurich.

Refrigerated pandan (screwpine) leaves are sold in the Asian grocery store in the ZHB (go to the end of Platform 18, descend the stairs, turn right and it is there on the left).

Slice up the pandan leaves, place them in a blender with some water and puree them; sieve to extract the very green juice - (great also for making pandan cake, steamed cakes or kuih, and cendol!). Whole leaves boiled in gula melaka syrup is great for making sago gula melaka.
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I'm also missing all the Indo grocery stores and 'warungs' back in Melbourne (let alone Indonesia!) I haven't seen any kecap manis either but will keep my eyes out.

Ferdinandaldo - thank you for the tip re the new Dapur Indonesia restaurant. Maybe you know where we can get kecap manis? Would be very happy if I found some tempeh also

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Selamat datang!
I'm Indonesian too and have been here for the past 6 months. Totally missing Indo food. I've lived in Australia for the past 12 years, was so easy to get your fix of Indonesian groceries / ingredients / restaurants... plus it's super cheap. Here I can't even seem to find kecap manis ABC, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough...

Ferdinandaldo I'm definitely going to be checking out that Dapur Indonesia place! Thanks for the tip
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Argus, you are a mine of info about SE asian food! Thank you for the tip re pandan leaves (and the ZHB grocery store).

I found some gula jawa (again at the Lian Hua asian grocery in Wiedikon) for CHF3.65 - do you know if this is the same as gula melaka? It comes in a dark brown cylinder, as you described - pic below.
The gula jawa does look like gula melaka - guess the proof of the 'pudding' is in the tasting, haha.

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I'm also missing all the Indo grocery stores and 'warungs' back in Melbourne (let alone Indonesia!) I haven't seen any kecap manis either but will keep my eyes out.

Ferdinandaldo - thank you for the tip re the new Dapur Indonesia restaurant. Maybe you know where we can get kecap manis? Would be very happy if I found some tempeh also
Ketjap manis is found in most Migros and some Coop stores, together with ketjap asin (masin), sambal oelek (vinegared pureed red chillies) and sambal badjak (a sweet/salty/spicy condiment containing chillies, shallots, etc). Just look in their 'exotic' food shelves. You can also get the Chinese or Thai versions of kecap manis in Asian grocery stores.

P.S. Am sure I saw tempeh somewhere in Zug or Zurich. Sorry just cannot remember where.
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