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Possibly relocating to Geneva

Hi all,

As someone who loves the outdoors, a keen cyclist and into snowsports, I have the desire to move from London to the continent somewhere with a better work life attitude and more geared to an outdoors life. Geneva seems the perfect place, everything I have heard about the place has been fantastic.

I was planning on visiting next month, and bringing a few CV's to get an idea of the job market, are there recruitment agencies who I can get in contact with and meet with when I visit, give an idea of the jobs about. Im a fairly recent graduate currently working as an accountant/analyst for a private wealth management firm. Are there many jobs about for people in my position. I dont mind doing an entry level job initially till I get sorted,

Also I currently only speak English and the smallest amount of French, will this be a problem? if anythink this is another reason why I want to move to CH to become at least Bi lingual.

Many thanks, A
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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

Hello A and welcome to the forum.

Intro section is not actually meant for employment questions, why don't you go and see our specific employment subforum? Make a thread with questions you need and see if people chip in, usually it does not take that long.

Another way would be to use our archives, all those questions have been already answered. Please, see the search window in the upper right hand corner, type in a couple of your key words, employment agency, for example and see all the threads it will come up with.

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hello and welcome to the forum and perhaps soon in my Home Town
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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

Hi and welcome to the forum!

I also moved out here from the UK about 3 years ago. I think it is probably fair to say that the job hunting situation is not that easy though - I wouldn't say impossible, but it is best to start the process with your eyes open.

On the positive side, I am certainly very happy I made the move and currently have no plans to go back to the UK. I am also an outdoor sports enthusiast and love living in Geneva.

For job hunting, I have a long list of agencies, some multinational and some local. I would suggest getting in touch with as many as possible and getting your CV out there. There are also a few websites which have searchable job listings. Here goes:

http://www.efinancialcareers.com/advancedSearch.htm
http://www.jobup.ch/searchJob.asp
http://www.profil-emploi.ch/
http://www.necstep.ch/home_en.php
http://www.cattaneo-consulting.ch/en...s-accueil.html
http://www.vacancy.ch/
http://www.curriculum.ch/
http://www.multi.ch/pages/index.asp
http://www.adecco.ch/en-US/find-a-jo...s/default.aspx
http://www.michaelpage.ch/index.html
http://www.lotuspartners.ch/?rub=5&cat=13
http://www.bridgemaninternational.com/candidates.html
http://geneva.angloinfo.com/af/442/g...-agencies.html
http://www.jobsingeneva.com/
http://kfr.kellyglobal.net/web/ch/kfr/en/pages/
http://www.baronconseil.com/index.htm
http://www.pagepersonnel.ch/espace-candidat.html
http://www.manpower.ch/recherche-doffres/
http://www.ficoba.ch/
http://www.hays.ch/web/start.cfm?nid...1-3ae4797457b5
http://www.alecallan.com/www1/En/index.html
http://www.selbyjennings.com/current-vancancies/


I got jobs using Adecco and Vacancy, so can recommend them both. Necstep were also very helpful.

Good luck!
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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

Thank you, for all your wonderful information,

Sorry if this may not have been the best place for this post,

I intended just to state my intentions to make the move and ask for general advice but this became more of an employment question. Hopefully next time Ill post a link in the introi section it will be because ive just made the move

Again thank you
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And his citizenship might even be revoked if it's determined he's giving away state secrets!

Welcome Mr/s. O'Conner to EF & hopefully Geneva.
I'll give you another secret: Housing. It's a serious issue.
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I'll give you another secret: Housing. It's a serious issue.
If you look at the statistics, it's impossible to find housing in the Geneva area. But in all my trips I have seen nobody sleeping Sous les ponts de Genève


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And his citizenship might even be revoked if it's determined he's giving away state secrets!

Welcome Mr/s. O'Conner to EF & hopefully Geneva.
I'll give you another secret: Housing. It's a serious issue.
A few more years yet until I can become a citizen :-)

And yes I would agree that housing is a serious issue, but I don't know anyone who didn't find somewhere eventually either. It is a matter of persistence more than anything else...
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A few more years yet until I can become a citizen :-)

And yes I would agree that housing is a serious issue, but I don't know anyone who didn't find somewhere eventually either. It is a matter of persistence more than anything else...
Of course. I'm just saying as I think it's important to know. We didn't know when we moved to GE (all those years ago. ). Had I known I would have been less stressed about the whole thing.
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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

Yeah I have heard about the housing in GE, as a keen cyclist I wouldnt mind living a little further out, 10 miles or so from where I work, hopefully housing will be a little easier (and cheaper) to find out from the centre.

In London i found persistence to be the key to getting good value accommodation. I am planning a research trip in August/September to look at areas to live, check out the vibe etc

Currently as an English speaker with a very small amount of French will I be able to pick this up as I go, or am I likely to need lessons?

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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

you need lessons. for sure. and that is jsut to help you get along in daily life. the slightest accent and they will know you are not from here. in some case works in your advantage. in many it doesnt. being Geneva and most of the people there are foreigners you will be good. but it never hurts to show an effort and learn the language
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Yeah I have heard about the housing in GE, as a keen cyclist I wouldnt mind living a little further out, 10 miles or so from where I work, hopefully housing will be a little easier (and cheaper) to find out from the centre.
I am about 12km out of town, and also cycle or motorbike in to work every day. It could be slightly easier to find somewhere out of town depending what you are looking for, as you will be looking at villages and small commuter towns which will have more houses and less apartments. However, don't bank on it being any cheaper - the only exception to that would be to try just over the border in France either in Ferney Voltaire (behind the airport) or Annemasse, but even then the prices are pushed up relative to France in general because of the number of people wanting to do the same thing.

Of course the down side to being out of town is that you are a bit more cut off from things, especially at the beginning when meeting people and making friends. Even from the centre of town you can be out in the fields within 10 minutes if you are cycling.

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Most people in Geneva speak English. There are some expats on secondments with international organisations or multinationals who never learn more than bonjour and au revoir, even if they have been hear for many years. However, being at least moderately competent will make your life a lot easier and more interesting, as you will be able to integrate. I would advise trying to do a bit before you arrive so you have the basics, and then try and take lessons when you arrive, but mostly just try to speak as much as you can in French when you are here, at the shops, the bank, with your colleagues etc.

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Most people in Geneva speak English. There are some expats on secondments with international organisations or multinationals who never learn more than bonjour and au revoir, even if they have been hear for many years. However, being at least moderately competent will make your life a lot easier and more interesting, as you will be able to integrate.
This is an important point, that applies to all big Swiss towns: You can survive on English alone but to thrive you need the local language.

This applies not only to expats but also to vacationers. I have no real difficulties in germanophone Switzerland, but enjoy my stay far more in the francophone part (I speak French but not German).
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There is more of an emphasis on language skills in Geneva than you may think.
My partner is in tax/tax accounting and you would be surprised by how many companies (in the financial sector) that require language skills as well.

To be honest you may have better luck with UK agencies that advertise jobs here. They often have the jobs that only require English. But try the Swiss ones because you never know. The job market is very tight though. Lots of competition for obvious reasons.

You can survive without French here but it won't be easy. You will be received better if you make some effort and life will be easier for you.
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Re: Possibly relocating to Geneva

Hi All,

Moved to Lausanne and in temporary accomodation, have been for two interviews and got a verbal offer from one so its not all doom and gloom, only arrived on Thursday!
Harder is the property issue, as we are likely to extend our temp accomodation, however stick to it A O'Connor and you will get there!!!
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You can survive without French here but it won't be easy. You will be received better if you make some effort and life will be easier for you.
Locals are always happy to see that expats make the effort to learn their language. You will also appreciate more the life here if you know a little bit of French.

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