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Going to CH from the US

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I have been on the forum for 2 years (wow) and have never posted. I have read a lot and enjoy it. I would like to come to CH next month with my 2 daughters. We are all dual citizens, US and CH. I am coming for an extended stay and would like to look for work and see if I could make a living in CH. I have so many questions and concerns. I will be coming to CH on a US passport with my two girls. I am a single mother and was never married to the father, so I have no custody papers. I will be getting a one-way ticket because I do not know exactly when we will go back to the US. I am wondering if anyone could advise me on entering CH with a US passport and wanting to stay longer than the 90 days allowed by Shengen. Since we are all CH citizens we should not have trouble staying but what about returning to the US with a US passport after the 90 days? I have not wanted to purchase Swiss passports (due to cost) but if needed I could do so once in CH. I welcome any and all feedback from all the knowledgeable people on this forum.

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Re: Going to CH from the US

Welcome to the forum. I hope that your move goes well. Have you decided yet where you'll be living and so on? Also, as a CH citizen you might well be entitled to benefits while you look for work.

To do anything once you arrive, they will want proof that you are here legally. If you already have Swiss Identity Cards (Ausweis) you might get by with those. However, if you don't, I'd seriously consider getting the passports sooner rather than later. You'll have enough things to fuss with when you arrive; you won't need to be arguing over whether your citizenship is sufficiently documented when renting an apartment, opening a bank account, looking for a job, etc.

What is the situation with the father? I know that you don't want to take them across a border if he has some claim to custody and objects, (they can be dragged back to the US) but I don't know the documentation required to convince the border police that you have sole custody.

The US doesn't care how long you've been gone. If you have a US passport, that is what you are required to present when leaving and entering the country. As a citizen you can always go home.
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Hello,

I have been on the forum for 2 years (wow) and have never posted. I have read a lot and enjoy it. I would like to come to CH next month with my 2 daughters. We are all dual citizens, US and CH. I am coming for an extended stay and would like to look for work and see if I could make a living in CH. I have so many questions and concerns. I will be coming to CH on a US passport with my two girls. I am a single mother and was never married to the father, so I have no custody papers. I will be getting a one-way ticket because I do not know exactly when we will go back to the US. I am wondering if anyone could advise me on entering CH with a US passport and wanting to stay longer than the 90 days allowed by Shengen. Since we are all CH citizens we should not have trouble staying but what about returning to the US with a US passport after the 90 days? I have not wanted to purchase Swiss passports (due to cost) but if needed I could do so once in CH. I welcome any and all feedback from all the knowledgeable people on this forum.

Thanks,
Diane
If you're a CH citizen then you should enter on a CH passport, just as when you return to the US you will be required to enter on your US passport. I'd recommend contacting your area consulate for your obligations as a Swiss citizen traveling to Switzerland.

If you overstay 90 days admitted as a USC in CH, you won't receive any complications when returning to the US, as the US doesn't care if USCs are overstaying elsewhere. USCs can never be denied admission to the US.

The father of your children, if he is still in their lives, should give consent for you to take them outside of the US, and especially if you are planning to stay in CH. He may not be married to you, but he still has parental rights, unless he otherwise formally relinquished any right to custody. It's been a problem before when children were taken out of the country without such permission, and has resulted in charges of kidnapping.

You may wish to look at the prices of 1-way vs. roundtrip or open return tickets. 1-way tends to be more expensive than a roundtrip ticket, even if you include change fees.
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Re: Going to CH from the US

Just get Swiss ID cards, no need for a Swiss passport at all (unless you want to go to North Korea, Cuba, or some other place that you can't go with a US one).

Unlike the US, Switzerland doesn't require it's citizens to enter/leave with a Swiss ID or passport.

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I will have a notarized letter from the father giving permission to leave the US. In the US if the parents weren't married and neither parent has taken the other to court to fight for custody there just isn't any custody. Both parents still have rights but no one has custody. BTW how does a newbie "Thank" someone? I would like to thank those who have helped me.
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Thank you for your reply and all the useful information. I will be using my frequent flyer miles to travel to CH and it is the same if you do one-way or round-trip. I am enjoying reading everyone's reply.
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