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Old 19.09.2011, 21:12
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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

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Seems to me this thread got out of control - talking about "jämställdhet" (gender equality). My impression of the Swiss is that they don't tend to be as politically correct as one can get use to in Sweden, and people are actually not frowned upon when having their own oppinion
There are different "politically correctness" here compared to in Sweden...
For instance in Sweden it would never be "allowed" to behave like e.g. SVP,
and here it's politically correct not to complain (except when it comes to foreigners), and to strike...

In general Swiss are more correct and they want to be able to take care of themselves, there are a lot less Swiss that abuse the system then e.g. in Sweden...maybe we feel in Sweden that it is our rights to abuse the system due to brutal taxes

e.g. here you can be home sick for 3-5 days without a permit from your doctor, AND you get money from the first day...that never worked in Sweden, too many abused that system...
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Old 19.09.2011, 22:27
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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

I am Swiss and if I could exchange with you I'd look forward to going to Sweden mainly because:

- I experienced that (almost) everything runs smoothly there and that
- people are more laid back, but still precise
- the proximity to the sea and awesome archipelagos
- the possibility to eat fresh seafood everyday
- the possibility to just have your own style and not beeing judged by that to quote a few.

What I could miss from Switzerland:
- The mountains
- The possibility to drink a glass (or 2!) of a very good wine without ruining myself when eating in a restaurant (yes still expensive in CH but not so much than my experience in the nordic countries in general)
- The possibility to buy wine whenever I want and at many places
- Maybe another way of directness in debates
- Chocolate (yes! I'm an addict).

Now I hope you'll fly with Swiss, because Swissair won't bring you here anymore.
Willkommen- Bienvenu- Benvenuto- +romantsch I don't remember

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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

Interesting post I alway love to hear other peoples reflections regarding Sweden, specially since you're Swiss it'll help me understand more about Switzerland

People in general are pretty easy going, no complications, no wasting energy on unimportant formalities. This is sometimes good, and sometimes bad.

Since I'm born and raised in Stockholm walking next to the water during a summer night is probably hard to replace But I know CH also has some amazing nature and mountains! Once I was in Thun, we were sitting by the Thunersee - 30+ degrees with the Swiss alps in the background, clear blue water with swans...it was so calming! It was snowing like crazy in Stockholm during that period, so when I came to Thun I only had winter clothes as I thought the weather was the same as in Sweden

Eating fresh seafood every day is not something people really do, @all swedes here - any other comments?

People are allowed to have their own style, but in my opinion this is abused and can sometimes be somewhat irritating...

Sweden has a lot of Swiss brands of chocolate so you won't be disappointed

Being direct is something Swedes in general are pretty bad at, a yes/no is never what it seems...

Well then I'll take Swiss on my trip to Svizzera

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I am Swiss and if I could exchange with you I'd look forward to going to Sweden mainly because:

- I experienced that (almost) everything runs smoothly there and that
- people are more laid back, but still precise
- the proximity to the sea and awesome archipelagos
- the possibility to eat fresh seafood everyday
- the possibility to just have your own style and not beeing judged by that to quote a few.

What I could miss from Switzerland:
- The mountains
- The possibility to drink a glass (or 2!) of a very good wine without ruining myself when eating in a restaurant (yes still expensive in CH but not so much than my experience in the nordic countries in general)
- The possibility to buy wine whenever I want and at many places
- Maybe another way of directness in debates
- Chocolate (yes! I'm an addict).

Now I hope you'll fly with Swiss, because Swissair won't bring you here anymore.
Willkommen- Bienvenu- Benvenuto- +romantsch I don't remember
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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

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An English ex-colleague was living in Sweden for a few months and held a party. The amount of booze he purchased (showing his ID card) led to enrollment in a compulsory alcoholics anonymous course
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Never heard that one before... it's not so that his mates played him a joke? ID is shown to prove that the one purchasing the alcohol is over 20 - and to be on the safe side they usually ask people all the way up in their 40s to show ID. However, registering your ID details with the purchase is not done....


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- I experienced that (almost) everything runs smoothly there and that
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- the proximity to the sea and awesome archipelagos
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Hm...I'd say things usually run way much more smoothly here in Switzerland - just take the classic example of public transport. In Stockholm it is like it is a surprise every year that it is a country of 4 seasons and leaves are falling and later on snow...
However, doing the Swedish taxes is waaaay much easier (just that the state wants so much of it...)

Oh! How I miss the water... good thing that I go home for a few days soon

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- The possibility to drink a glass (or 2!) of a very good wine without ruining myself when eating in a restaurant (yes still expensive in CH but not so much than my experience in the nordic countries in general)
- The possibility to buy wine whenever I want and at many places
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True - it is cheaper here, and in addition you can have Swiss wine here! That is not available in Sweden either!
But the availability is about the same after normal shop hours, unless you live close to a train station...
However, I like being able to shop food and wine in the same place

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Eating fresh seafood every day is not something people really do, @all swedes here - any other comments?
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True - but not until you come here, you realise how readily available seafood is in Sweden and how much part of Swedish food culture it is. I didn't think I ate that much seafood at home, but it was a big change coming here. (Based on regularly having lunch during my 4 years here in a quite good Swiss canteen with a lot of variety). But it is kind of natural since Switzerland is a country without borders to a sea - however if you live close to the borders to France or Germany, the availability increases significantly:-)
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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

Some nice and interesting posts here

The water is something you take for granted when you live in Stockholm!
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Re: Stockholm to Zürich

Comming from Sweden and considering the comments in this thread I guess the upgrade could be for you less attractive than expected. And in the end, the move and settle here could be time and money consuming without a significant benefit.

To find a job and a flat here is not a piece of cake, not to talk about learning the language/socialize with other people thant expats.
If you have the possibility to try that and then go back if it doesn't work, then do it!
Have you considered other countries ? France (south)? Italy? Turkey ? Netherlands? Overseas ?...or out of Sweden but close, like working 1 year on a ferry between the nordic countries, or on the Hurtigruten along the coast of Norway or the South Pole? -I'd love to do that!!!

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