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Hi All

I have been reading all these threads for a few weeks now and just wanted to pass on my thanks to everyone who bothers to post on this forum. It really helps with the transition and provides a very nice comfort blanket on arrival.

Thank You!

I have recently retired from the RAF and taken a position with a new company in Zug building Unmanned Aircraft (UAV) so have had to hit the ground running with little time to explore anywhere beyond the Brit Bar (Pickwicks?). The one thing I wasn't really prepared for, despite reading all about it on this forum, was the cost of everything. 14CHF for a G&T!!! I have never nursed a drink for so long.

My plan is two weeks here then two weeks in the UK so any advice on cheap flights would be well received.

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Paul
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Hi All

I have been reading all these threads for a few weeks now and just wanted to pass on my thanks to everyone who bothers to post on this forum. It really helps with the transition and provides a very nice comfort blanket on arrival.

Thank You!

I have recently retired from the RAF and taken a position with a new company in Zug building Unmanned Aircraft (UAV) so have had to hit the ground running with little time to explore anywhere beyond the Brit Bar (Pickwicks?). The one thing I wasn't really prepared for, despite reading all about it on this forum, was the cost of everything. 14CHF for a G&T!!! I have never nursed a drink for so long.

My plan is two weeks here then two weeks in the UK so any advice on cheap flights would be well received.

Kindest Regards

Paul
Easy Jet booked in advance can be very cheap.

I guess you realise that you will probably be liable to tax in the UK, as you have not left the UK for a settled purpose, your just working away.
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Hi FMF

Many thanks for the reply. Yup on the taxes. My kids are doing well at school and approaching GCSE time so I don't want to move them yet. The company I work for is providing accommodation and transport for me so I suppose I will have to throw that onto the tax for also.....lots still to sort out.

I'm still confused as to the work Visa I need and if I pay tax here then use the double taxation rules to offset the UK tax etc etc etc. Its a mine field.
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Many thanks for the reply. Yup on the taxes. My kids are doing well at school and approaching GCSE time so I don't want to move them yet. The company I work for is providing accommodation and transport for me so I suppose I will have to throw that onto the tax for also.....lots still to sort out.

I'm still confused as to the work Visa I need and if I pay tax here then use the double taxation rules to offset the UK tax etc etc etc. Its a mine field.
Have you got a 'B' Permit? You will be taxed at source here, as allowances are different your taxable earnings will probably higher in the UK, however there is a personal allowance to offset some of that.
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No 'B' yet but the company is working on it and advising me on the paperwork.

Thanks for the info.
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Hi Srolfy,

re your taxes in the UK, be very careful (forgive me if you are already aware of the following!). If you haven't left the UK and are 'employed' by a Swiss company, HMRC here would probably view your accommodation and other benefits as a taxable benefit in kind. My husband accepted a post in Jersey after he retired, on the basis that the employer would provide for 3 flights a month home, accommodation for the duration and other expenses. Well, like Switzerland, accommodation costs in Jersey are very expensive (he was in a small serviced apartment) and we were advised that the HMRC here would certainly have classed that as a benefit in kind for someone under an employment contract retaining residency here. His accommodation was to cost 1000 a week, so 40% tax on that if a benefit in kind is a lot of tax!!!

Once we realised this, he negotiated instead a consultancy contract on a self employed basis, so all the expenses such as accommodation are deductible as business expenses. My husband was working for the jersey Govt, so it was much more risky for him in terms of HMRC detecting the benefits in kind if they were ever minded to ask the Jersey Govt to declare payments made to him after filing his tax return and claiming credit for the tax paid in Jersey. However, I thought I just detail the scenario, just so you are aware.

Hope you are enjoying Switzerland
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Hi BY

Great advice, thanks! It would seem that I am about to drop into the same trap as your husband

I'll have a chat with the company legal and let you know how I get on. Really appreciate all the help.
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Hi Srolfy,

re your taxes in the UK, be very careful (forgive me if you are already aware of the following!). If you haven't left the UK and are 'employed' by a Swiss company, HMRC here would probably view your accommodation and other benefits as a taxable benefit in kind. My husband accepted a post in Jersey after he retired, on the basis that the employer would provide for 3 flights a month home, accommodation for the duration and other expenses. Well, like Switzerland, accommodation costs in Jersey are very expensive (he was in a small serviced apartment) and we were advised that the HMRC here would certainly have classed that as a benefit in kind for someone under an employment contract retaining residency here. His accommodation was to cost 1000 a week, so 40% tax on that if a benefit in kind is a lot of tax!!!

Once we realised this, he negotiated instead a consultancy contract on a self employed basis, so all the expenses such as accommodation are deductible as business expenses. My husband was working for the jersey Govt, so it was much more risky for him in terms of HMRC detecting the benefits in kind if they were ever minded to ask the Jersey Govt to declare payments made to him after filing his tax return and claiming credit for the tax paid in Jersey. However, I thought I just detail the scenario, just so you are aware.

Hope you are enjoying Switzerland
That look's exactly the situation here.
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Hi there, we realised well before he signed any contract of employment but they wanted his expertise and were happy to accommodate a consultancy arrangement, so see if you can renegotiate to avoid all of this, as it would suck a big chunk of your earnings (assuming you are not on kazilllions ). You just have to factor into your 'professional fee' all the additional costs like professional indemnity insurance and the mandatory health cover etc. you have to have in Switzerland (people on the forum can help you with these costs, I am only a frequent visitor to Switzerland ). My husband then billed them every 30 days for his professional fees with the accommodation, flights etc. on top. You have to pay all the accommodation and flights etc. up front of course, but it's way better than getting taxed at 40%. My husband wanted his accommodation kept on all the time to avoid him having to pack all the time, so just for the accommodation, his tax bill would have been 400 a week. Add tax on the flights etc and it wouldn't have been worth the hassle to be honest.

Hope you work out something economically sensible
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