Despina you're so right... I really think Greeks work hard and maybe more than the rest of Europe (at least in the private sector). A lot of them work two jobs. Some work three even...
I'm not saying Greeks are perfect, but not all information you hear and read is true.
I wish this political and financial story going on in EU would come to an end. I run into a nice quote from Plato the other day: "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato
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Despina you're so right... I really think Greeks work hard and maybe more than the rest of Europe (at least in the private sector). A lot of them work two jobs. Some work three even...
I'm not saying Greeks are perfect, but not all information you hear and read is true.
I wish this political and financial story going on in EU would come to an end. I run into a nice quote from Plato the other day: "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato
Most young Greek lawyers like me work longer than 10 hours per day and get 600-900 euro per month, not to mention they have secretary duties as well.... My parents were civil servants and as such could not actually avoid paying their taxes and social security, yet they are watching their pensions going downhill at the moment.
[The one who drew us into this discussion must be enjoying themselves]
I would not look for an accounting/financial position anywhere out of Greece.
I doubt if there is any demand for those.
Something else you need to be aware of is that the rest of the EC generally deduct and pay tax.
Another thing is that you will more than likely have to work until you are at least 66 in the EC. I know this would come as a shock to a Greek
Nice post! Coming obviously from someone who has never worked or lived in Greece! Since I returned to Greece from the UK, wherever I worked, I worked at least 13 to 14 hours per day on average and often during the weekends (as most of the people I know). The salary definately did not respond to that or my qualifications, and of course getting paid for the overtime or the weekends was out of the question. The reason I obtained such a diverse experience is that because of my studies, I was asked to do more and more, without ofcourse getting paid for more. Work rights are non existent in most small and medium sized business. The only option was to change jobs. The new fad in the consulting sector is to work as a freelance consultant (which means paying extra tax and registrations to the relevant public service) and not having any rights what so ever. Of course in reality you are not freelance, as you are not allowed to work elsewhere and you are required to work 15 hours per day at the office. Not at all freelance, trust me. I have paid all my taxes all these years (like I said I am not the only one like that), I have worked really hard, and I don't get anything in return for what i have paid. In the opposite, I cannot get a job, the gov. does not help me get one, I have no income, and the government keeps asking for money I don't have, adding new measures. If you take a look at the EC official data, the Greeks work the longest hours. Don't confuse the public servants with the rest. On top of all that, I hear you say crap about the Greeks not working and not paying taxes. It is really frustrating to hear that, when most of the people my age are well educated people who have worked really hard, have become unemployed, have paid all their taxes and even more, have got nothing in return and have to face this behaviour from ignorant people.
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hello there fellow greek! as others said, don't give up! also, are you looking only in switzerland? if you definately want to leave greece perhaps you should not restrict yourself to looking to one country only
while looking maybe you could take advantage of the time passing by having some german lessons?
good luck!
Hi Crimson, I am starting German lessons next week. I am actually looking anywhere for a job, however Switzerland would be number one for me. If I get a job elsewhere, of course I will take it.
Nice post! Coming obviously from someone who has never worked or lived in Greece! Since I returned to Greece from the UK, wherever I worked, I worked at least 13 to 14 hours per day on average and often during the weekends (as most of the people I know). The salary definately did not respond to that or my qualifications, and of course getting paid for the overtime or the weekends was out of the question. The reason I obtained such a diverse experience is that because of my studies, I was asked to do more and more, without ofcourse getting paid for more. Work rights are non existent in most small and medium sized business. The only option was to change jobs. The new fad in the consulting sector is to work as a freelance consultant (which means paying extra tax and registrations to the relevant public service) and not having any rights what so ever. Of course in reality you are not freelance, as you are not allowed to work elsewhere and you are required to work 15 hours per day at the office. Not at all freelance, trust me. I have paid all my taxes all these years (like I said I am not the only one like that), I have worked really hard, and I don't get anything in return for what i have paid. In the opposite, I cannot get a job, the gov. does not help me get one, I have no income, and the government keeps asking for money I don't have, adding new measures. If you take a look at the EC official data, the Greeks work the longest hours. Don't confuse the public servants with the rest. On top of all that, I hear you say crap about the Greeks not working and not paying taxes. It is really frustrating to hear that, when most of the people my age are well educated people who have worked really hard, have become unemployed, have paid all their taxes and even more, have got nothing in return and have to face this behaviour from ignorant people.
You couldn't have put it better!!
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A few tens of thousands of Greek scientists and specialized staff immigrated to Australia and the Australians were amazed with how well educated and how effective they are. They are now setting up a second round of recruitment activities in Greece.
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