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So I was planning on moving to Switzerland, in fact i was dead set on it until I read the posts about housing cost. I'm a single 21 year old male, and in America it's hard for someone in my position to make any significant amount of income. I have $10,000 US for the move, which i thought would be plenty until i started seeing how much deposits on small apartments really are, looks like my hopes have been dashed on the rocks. Does anyone have any advice on more affordable temporary housing solutions until I can get on my feet? Any help would be great!

As you are under 25, you are first required to complete your military service.
The good news is you will have somewhere to live, you will be fed, and you will be paid.

For more information on Swiss returning to their homeland you should read this link.
http://aso.ch/en/consultation/back-to-switzerland

and specifially this link to an information brochure.

http://aso.ch/files/webcontent/recht..._with_logo.pdf

Just out of curiousity, what is your Heimatort, and do you speak Swiss German?
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hi Eric, with 21 and $10000 I do not think personally you will have a problem. Before I give you any advice I would like to know what qualifications you have? Would you consider to share with other young people a flat? You can easily find a room in a flat for about $ 400 to $500 a month. Regarding jobs, it is not so difficult at your age, and if you are not very fussy. Your problem is the lack of German, there are many websites for young people, but they are in German. http://www.wgzimmer.ch try to put an add in english and explain your plans in the add. Swiss people will help you and reply in english to you.
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As you are under 25, you are first required to complete your military service.
The good news is you will have somewhere to live, you will be fed, and you will be paid.
Hi, exactly this happened to a colleague of mine, coming from Argentina.. but also having a Swiss passport... He was lucky enough to speak a bit of french so he had no major communication problems during the military service...
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Re: New to English Forum, not in Switzerland yet

Eric, have a look-see at this thread, "Moving to Switzerland: Impossible"

A lady and her family in Bali who are Swiss citizens but never lived here also want to move to Switzerland because they want to change things up, too. Much of what comes to mind that I want to tell you has already been said to them just this week.

I am a US citizen, and I wanted to come to Europe... been dreaming of it for years... ever since Bush stole the election in 2000. Finally got what I wanted, and now I'm ready to go back home.

The grass isn't always greener, and CH isn't any better off than the US, particularly with the Eurocrisis hanging in the balance.

But if you feel you must try something new in life... then do it now, while you're young enough still to change directions if it doesn't work out.
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Just to cover bases, since you didn't mention what is bringing you to Switzerland, and since you are non-EU:


Before you think about moving costs (which are indeed quite high), do you have a job and a permit?


ETA: Shouldn't this be it's own thread? Has little to do with the first post....)
Moving costs are already taken care of. I do not have a job, or a permit. However we are getting married in April, and the folks in the Canton assure us we have all the paperwork needed for the permit, and it is ok for us to marry and come down on the tourist visa.

Worst case scenario if the canton office is wrong and they aren't able to extend my stay until my residency/work permit arrives, I will just stay with a friend in Germany right across the border for a month. Then later France, Austria, and Italy. I have backup plans just in case, even though I think it won't be needed. We are being guided by a friend who did exactly the same thing not but a few months ago, and people in the Canton office.
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Moving costs are already taken care of. I do not have a job, or a permit. However we are getting married in April, and the folks in the Canton assure us we have all the paperwork needed for the permit, and it is ok for us to marry and come down on the tourist visa.

Worst case scenario if the canton office is wrong and they aren't able to extend my stay until my residency/work permit arrives, I will just stay with a friend in Germany right across the border for a month. Then later France, Austria, and Italy. I have backup plans just in case, even though I think it won't be needed. We are being guided by a friend who did exactly the same thing not but a few months ago, and people in the Canton office.
Ugh please disregard me. I was reading two threads, and hit reply to the wrong one, thinking I was replying to another. Sorry!!
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Hi Eric,

I'm an English Speaking ex-pat who came here with no other languages, no job and hardly any money. The beginning was difficult. I've now been here for 17 years and still loving it, so I'd like to give you some tips that I learned for the two most important necessities that may help you for your start here.

You are a Swiss national, which helps massively as you do not need to go through the immigration aspect of your move. You also have some cash -but most of all you have the will and drive to strive for something better.
This will keep you going.

JOBS:
As an English speaker, you need to base yourself in a large city where the opportunity for finding work in English is greater. There are many companies in Switzerland who work in English.

Zürich is business - look into corporate companies and what jobs you could do within them, also international banking offers good opportunites to English speakers. Basel is basically grounded on the Pharma sector with the two giants, Hoffmann La Roche and Novartis employing a huge number of English speakers from many different professions and backgrounds. (Google "pharma companies in Basel" for further information). Geneva is HUGELY international and open for good opportunities for English speakers - United Nations is also based here who employ people from all over the globe.
Whatever your situation - get started on the internet and make a list of the companies that interest you, then dig deeper into them.
(As a temporary measure, working in the Alps during the ski season can be a great way to get you through for a while). Check out the "working in Switzerland" sector on this site, there is some useful information here. www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home.html

ACCOMMODATION:

Accommodation is expensive but there can be cheaper alternatives as already mentioned. Hostels, apartment sharing and also, see if it's possible to have lodgings as part of your job.

One thing which is worth noting is that Basel is literally a stone's throw away from Germany and France - France being the cheaper of the two. It is possible for you to actually LIVE over the border in France with your Swiss passport and travel daily to Basel to look for work - this would definately make your money last a little longer until you find a job that can accommodate the expense of an apartment in Switzerland. (You can get accommodation for as little as 30 Euros a day). Google "Hegenheim" and "Saint Louis", both are in the region of Alsace in France. You will not need a car as you can literally WALK or take the bus over the border to Basel.

The prices may be shocking to you, but generally Europe is more expensive than the States. The advantage is that it's all relative. Switzerland is expensive, however it offers the salaries to accommodate.

Switzerland is an extraordinary country and has been far beyond what I expected.

Wishing you all the best for your move and your future!

Last edited by Longbyt; 11.02.2012 at 21:15. Reason: We remove links to the 'opposition' if we see them. There is enough info on here if the guy cares to look.
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