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So seems like I will loose my job. Good thing- I will finish exact 12 months of work here in Switzerland, I paid taxes and insurances. So its very likely that I will get unemployment benefits. However the question remains- My B permit will finish on same date when my job expires, so how to manage to get new permit while I will be on unemployed benefits?

I would appreciate answers from someone who actually went through this or have real stories Looking forward to your replies.

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PS: I am non EU

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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

It depends. Either RAV will take it over and apply for a new one or you need to find a new job quickly. Otherwise you'll find yourself being asked to leave Switzerland.

As soon as you know you are going to lose your job get down to RAV asap and apply for the benefits and a new permit. If they say they won't apply to renew it then you've got to find a job or prepare to leave the country. If RAV refuse to apply for the permit you have no grace period to search for jobs as a non-EU national. Only a new application by a potential new employer will give you the right to stay here while the application is being processed. So if you're fairly sure you're going to be fired I'd start getting CV's out as soon as you can.
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Thanks, thats pretty helpful comment. Is there any criteria how RAV decides this?

And, I already started preparing CV Its just looking for somewhere around here, which could take longer

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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

As long as you are eligible to claim your umployement insurance then you can remain even with a expired permit, though if you remain out of work after this time you are asked to leave.
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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

Ofcourse your company will give you notice/ ultimatum.When you get it,the next day you should be arriving at RAV..with the original notice and you shud not waste any time in doing that.
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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

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It depends. Either RAV will take it over and apply for a new one or you need to find a new job quickly. Otherwise you'll find yourself being asked to leave Switzerland.

As soon as you know you are going to lose your job get down to RAV asap and apply for the benefits and a new permit. If they say they won't apply to renew it then you've got to find a job or prepare to leave the country. If RAV refuse to apply for the permit you have no grace period to search for jobs as a non-EU national. Only a new application by a potential new employer will give you the right to stay here while the application is being processed. So if you're fairly sure you're going to be fired I'd start getting CV's out as soon as you can.
I am giving this thread a bump.

Do you know on what basis the RAV would decide to apply for a new permit or not? Although, as far as I understand,technically they don't apply for a permit from the scratch, they'd just stamp the permit renewal form as the "employer/source of income".

I've been looking for this information for some time but could not find it. Is there a text in some law or regulation that specifically addresses this issue? How would the RAV decide? it is not left to their personal mood, isnt it?

Example: A non-EU, worked in Switzerland for 4 years (i.e: entitled for RAV for 1.5 yrs), job and (B permit) ends 01.12.16, receives termination note 01.09.16, goes to RAV and register on 02.09.16 (still with a valid permit). Receives the green permit renewal form few days later, asks the RAV to stamp it as the "employer". Can the RAV reject? and on what basis?
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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

Yes, they can reject it as far as I know. I think it's decided on a case by case basis though so no hard and fast rule. They'll look at the prospects for you getting another job here among other things. I'm not sure when they'd stamp it as your employer though. Technically you'd still employed until the beginning of December so I don't think they'd stamp it much before that, but again individual circumstances would probably dictate when and if it happens.
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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

Thanks for the input Medea. It is a tricky loop, a person is entitled for RAV only with a valid permit, and a valid permit will be issued only if the RAV endorses the application.
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Re: Unemployment benefits, B permit expired

A friend of mine was recently in a similar situation: B permit, renewable yearly and made redundant by his employer. When it was time to renew the permit, he applied for the B renewal. He was sent the C permit application by mail as a response, but didn't think he would get it (he's been here 5 years and is from the US). Lo and behold, he received his C permit much to his surprise.

He said that the permit office called his RAV contact and the RAV guy evidently said good things, so he received his permit. Again, this is a case by case basis but I share it to let you know that it is possible.

Good luck with your situation.
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