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All of the above, plus someone needs to teach you the secret handshake.

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They are delicious, until they learn the Swiss ways and stuff themselves with cheese...


BTW Rick, you should be able to see the Thanks button. It appears once you have 10 posts under your belt, or wherever you keep your posts.
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Rick you should see the thanks button now. You need 10 posts before it appears. It's down by the Quote icon.
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I rather like the idea of being the Lord High Executioner. However we have to have a trial first. As Miss Marple wants to be the defence counsel we shall adjourn until tomorrow.
Take the plaintiff back to his cell.
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Stop it! You are scaring him off and I like him.
Can we keep him?

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It's Him with a capital H! Thank you very much
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I rather like the idea of being the Lord High Executioner. However we have to have a trial first. As Miss Marple wants to be the defence counsel we shall adjourn until tomorrow.
Take the plaintiff back to his cell.
I knew it...

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Him looks like an idiot for somehow double posting - sorry!

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All of the above, plus someone needs to teach you the secret handshake.

(Be wary of J.Marple, she collects newbies.... in her freezer downstairs)
No sweat, I checked YouTube for Secret+Handshake+Englishforum and low and behold

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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

MF is right though. Switzerland is not for everyone and you, like us, will have to keep your sense of humour in check sometimes.
Have fun checking it out though. We like it here - mostly.
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I rather like the idea of being the Lord High Executioner. However we have to have a trial first. As Miss Marple wants to be the defence counsel we shall adjourn until tomorrow.
Take the plaintiff back to his cell.
As you say m'lord.
Could you please try to refrain from beheading the prisoners before we have our ways with them? It's such a waste of fresh blood...
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Him looks like an idiot for somehow double posting - sorry!
I thought I was seeing double again. Glad it wasn't me.

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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

Welcome to the forum! As well as the monetary aspects, you have to think about all the potentially great things that you can do in Switzerland that are hard or expensive to do in the UK. You'll be close to a big lake, close to great skiiing (climbing, hiking, mountain biking...), close to endless unspoilt forests, etc. After almost twenty years here I still get a kick out of seeing the sun rise over the mountains as I drive to work. Especially when I think what all those Londoners and Parisians are experiencing - poor things.
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I thought I was seeing double again. Glad it wssn't me.
No, no. One only really sees double in Amsterdam 🙉🙈🙊

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MF is right though. Switzerland is not for everyone and you, like us, will have to keep your sense of humour in check sometimes.
Have fun checking it out though. We like it here - mostly.
I really do need to read this book huh...

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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

Hi Rick and welcome to the forum. You sound like an ideal candidate to enter the mad house
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... and that at the end of X many years if i leave Switzerland, i have something sufficient to show for it. Do you know what i mean?
You're 32, single?, and less than 2hrs from London, so in theory, you're the same distance from your family as if you'd relocated to Manchester. Think of it that way...

What you will take away from 2yrs+ in Switzerland is a nice little nest egg, new friends, new life experiences, probably a new language, and a glowing endorsement on your C.V. that's worth it's weight in gold. After London, you'll find the pace slower at first, but it will soon pick up once you explore and fill your spare time with the things you enjoy.

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And of course the perennial favourite (which the book I recommended also mentions a lot) no flushing the toilet after 10pm.
And that's the one that causes friction between me and my OH who refuses to abide by it.
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Old 07.02.2017, 21:43
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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

rick, as an example see this thread

Eventually Escaped...But Even That Was Painful!

Whether Switzerland will be for you or not, only you can decide. If you have time research, visit the country if possible even if only for a few days, discuss with family and friends and only then make your decision.
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Rick,

If you use the search function here on EF you will find a host of complaints threads.

Switzerland isn't everyone's cup of tea - that is not too surprising.

When you read through the threads try to keep an open mind. Many people are unhappy here because it isn't Iowa, or Liverpool, or Saskatoon. Some feel unwelcome, or that they are mistreated.

Switzerland is like any other place you might consider emigrating to: The people speak differently, the milk tastes funny, the eggs are the wrong size, and you need to change the plugs on all your electrical stuff. Contracts here are legally binding even if you didn't understand what you signed (This is apparently unique to the Swiss legal system).

If you have a decent job, with decent pay, and you make an effort to learn enough of the local language that you can communicate then you'll be fine - the rest is just detail stuff.
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Welcome to the forum! As well as the monetary aspects, you have to think about all the potentially great things that you can do in Switzerland that are hard or expensive to do in the UK. You'll be close to a big lake, close to great skiiing (climbing, hiking, mountain biking...), close to endless unspoilt forests, etc. After almost twenty years here I still get a kick out of seeing the sun rise over the mountains as I drive to work. Especially when I think what all those Londoners and Parisians are experiencing - poor things.
Thank you Frank.
I do love the idea of being close to the lake, plus the mountains are a huge plus. I quite enjoy camping as well however, I don't think this is allowed really?
And yes, sun and mountains on a drive to work certainly beats a dark and usually overcrowded tunnel 😆
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Hi Rick and welcome to the forum. You sound like an ideal candidate to enter the mad house
You're 32, single?, and less than 2hrs from London, so in theory, you're the same distance from your family as if you'd relocated to Manchester. Think of it that way...

What you will take away from 2yrs+ in Switzerland is a nice little nest egg, new friends, new life experiences, probably a new language, and a glowing endorsement on your C.V. that's worth it's weight in gold. After London, you'll find the pace slower at first, but it will soon pick up once you explore and fill your spare time with the things you enjoy.

And that's the one that causes friction between me and my OH who refuses to abide by it.
Thanks blue angel, I will do my best to fit in .

I certainly hope Zurich rains less than it does in Manchester though!
To be honest I don't mind the slower pace. I have tired of the constant rush of life here in London.

I REALLY need to read this book - the flushing thing may be a problem. Might just have to wake up at 5 and sleep at 9. By the way, if you can't flush after 10 at night, how early can you start flushing again?
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I REALLY need to read this book - the flushing thing may be a problem. Might just have to wake up at 5 and sleep at 9. By the way, if you can't flush after 10 at night, how early can you start flushing again?
I think Blueangel was being "tongue in cheek", it's one of those hot button issues with expats that they heard from a friend of a friend who has a mate who was threatened with eviction and public hanging if they flushed the loo after 10.00 . But it's mostly a load of guff. Maybe in very old buildings where the plumbing is a bit rattly they ask you to keep it to a minimum but in modern builds nobody would know anyway.
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By the way, if you can't flush after 10 at night, how early can you start flushing again?
Everyone is allocated a specific time by their Gemeinde. It's written in your Passport and ID card if you are Swiss, and in your Ausländerausweis if you aren't.

There is a mechanism to trade timeslots with other people, but it requires a 2/3 majority vote at the communal level, and there is a 250CHF administrative fee (plus the cost of a new Passport and/or ID).
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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

Hey Rick,
I am in the same boat, currently living in London, but will probably move in Zürich in April or May.

I have lived there one year before coming to London, and I quite liked it.
The pace of life is much, much (times infinity) slower, the outdoors are amazing, and, in my experience, if you're not a super party animal, Zürich offers enough places to have fun.
Moreover, Zurich is a great transport hub, so going somewhere else for short trips and get your urban fix is totally doable.

The things that make me a bit "anxious" about moving back are the flip sides of what I have just said.
A lot of things will be very different.
- In London there's a show/art exhibition/meetup/pub crawling at basically every corner and at any time. And yes, I am a bit tired of the crazy London's pace, but Zürich is a bit too much on the other end of the spectrum.
- If you're a foodie like me, London offers you the world (literally). Zürich has plenty of restaurants, but finding good cuisine (especially if "exotic") is a challenge.
- In UK you can get basically anything you want (ie. groceries delivery from Ocado, amazon.co.uk, etc. etc.), in Switzerland you have to adapt to switching to local products; not everything will be at your fingertips (which might be a good and a bad thing at the same time ).
- If you don't speak the local language, it will be harder to integrate. Most people speak perfect English, but it happened to me more than once to go at a party where everybody was speaking German, and I couldn't mingle with anybody. I had to take the initiative and talk to people (*gasp*) - in short, you will have to work for things that in UK are just a given.

Anyway - I could write a super wall of text on this topic. Feel free to send me a PM, haha!

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Thank you Frank.
I do love the idea of being close to the lake, plus the mountains are a huge plus. I quite enjoy camping as well however, I don't think this is allowed really?
And yes, sun and mountains on a drive to work certainly beats a dark and usually overcrowded tunnel ��
Why would camping not be allowed?

http://www.myswitzerland.com/en-ch/a...campsites.html
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