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Yes, eyebeebe is indeed correct here, i have a law degree but don't work in Legal but rather in Operations.
Your salary will depend on your cost centre i.e. where you are employed within the bank
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Honestly, I'm really not sure what to expect now. I will wait for their offer and come back to you guys on that and if necessary, return to them with a counter offer.
When you get a offer, dear Him, you might consider asking around on EF whether it's appropriate. At the end of the day it's hard, because no-one in Switzerland will publish their income.

Can only go from my experience from working in a big bank, and having been in a partnership with someone with your experience (who's now a judge in one off the major courts).
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A few suggestions from me / my 2 rappen...

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I think it's quite nice having food seasons
I feel the same way. Yet, OP, if you like culinary diversity (as I do), you'll find soon enough the many "ethnic" shops and small supermarkets in Kreis 4 and 5 that can satisfy your eating/cooking needs. Once you are in Zurich, search the forum for "Swisspea food tours" or other food-related threads, and take a walk around those areas.

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Honestly, I'm really not sure what to expect now. I will wait for their offer and come back to you guys on that and if necessary, return to them with a counter offer.
Can you negotiate an option to go back to the UK at will within a specified time frame? E.g. a 1 or 2-year contract to work in Zurich, at the end of which you can convert to permanent move or move back to your prior position in the UK? I think that would give you some peace of mind and take this experience as as adventure, at the end of which you are flexible to stay or go as you please.

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You really should do even if it's not with work. Having done the same move as you 8 years ago, it's very different to London in good ways and bad ways, which you have to see for yourself.
Yes!!! A visit is a must. Good luck!
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Old 08.02.2017, 20:44
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In Switzerland we are starved. We are deprived. We are going cold turkey. We suffer severe withdrawal symptoms.
No, no, no, Longbyt, that's the version for the Russian soldiers, should they be sent to Switzerland!

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I bet he means WILD camping. Not organised with all mod. cons.
Also mostly permitted. SAC page here; there is a link to an english pamphlet in the red "Downloads" box.
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When you get a offer, dear Him, you might consider asking around on EF whether it's appropriate. At the end of the day it's hard, because no-one in Switzerland will publish their income.

Can only go from my experience from working in a big bank, and having been in a partnership with someone with your experience (who's now a judge in one off the major courts).
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Honestly, I'm really not sure what to expect now. I will wait for their offer and come back to you guys on that and if necessary, return to them with a counter offer.
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Frau Dr. ZuriRollt will be fine until we get to know each other better.
So, did you get a job offer which indicates your salary package yet, so that we don't need to compare apples with lemons?



Well, i got my offer finally:

84K + 15% bonus based on targets etc, 2 months accomodation and reasonable moving/shipping costs and 2.4K allowance towards public transport. What do you guys think? Feels kind of short...
What do you think?
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Well, i got my offer finally:

84K + 15% bonus based on targets etc, 2 months accomodation and reasonable moving/shipping costs and 2.4K allowance towards public transport. What do you guys think? Feels kind of short...
What do you think?
84k GBP or 84k CHF? If the latter, it is very low.
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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

[QUOTE=Capo;2751099]84k GBP or 84k CHF? If the latter, it is very lowSorry,

Sorry Capo, should have been clearer, CHF 84K.

Is this at least an entry level wage for a operations role?
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Old 06.03.2017, 14:32
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84k GBP or 84k CHF? If the latter, it is very low.
No it really isn't for an entry level ops job.

It is maybe a little low, but not massively and I would say that a 15% bonus for an entry level job is good.
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No it really isn't for an entry level ops job.

It is maybe a little low, but not massively and I would say that a 15% bonus for an entry level job is good.
Do you think i should try to push for 90 or would that be pushing too far considering their initial offer?
Is asking for an increase CHF6K the same as asking for an increase of GBP6K (still haven't gotten a hang of the value of money there)?
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Do you think i should try to push for 90 or would that be pushing too far considering their initial offer?
Is asking for an increase CHF6K the same as asking for an increase of GBP6K (still haven't gotten a hang of the value of money there)?
You can ask of course. I suspect that the offer is the offer. With respect, as an entry level candidate, you don't have that much leverage.

At current exchange rates CHF 6k is just under GPB 5k. Also bear in mind that you are being offered the travel card too which you say is worth 2.4k
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Do you think i should try to push for 90 or would that be pushing too far considering their initial offer?
Is asking for an increase CHF6K the same as asking for an increase of GBP6K (still haven't gotten a hang of the value of money there)?
6k chuffs is around £4.5 k give or take.

Bear in mind that you'll likely need a 3 month rental deposit plus funds for health insurance. Ask. I would.
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Re: Introduction and Should i do it?

I have a feeling you are right about the offer and I did consider the travel card.
Thank you Eyebeebe.
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Bear in mind that you'll likely need a 3 month rental deposit plus funds for health insurance. Ask. I would.
Well yeah, i am going to ask for sure! pff...
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Well yeah, i am going to ask for sure! pff...
Hope that you get the response you want. I have no experience regarding your field but I would also say that that looks like a lowish offer. Obviously it depends on your lifestyle but CH ain't cheap.

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Many thanks All, you are a very helpful group
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Sorry Capo, should have been clearer, CHF 84K.

Is this at least an entry level wage for a operations role?
Just as a comparison, that base salary (without bonus) is roughly what a new graduate would get when they join one of the Big 4 in Tax/Audit consulting.

However, the 15% bonus takes it up to 97750 which is decent if you are able to get it consistently. As a starting point it is ok and bear in mind that your earning potential should raise over the next few years as you gain experience and are more able to easily move companies.

Getting your foot in the door in Switzerland is no mean feat so if you have an opportunity to do it then I say go for it.
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Just as a comparison, that base salary (without bonus) is roughly what a new graduate would get when they join one of the Big 4 in Tax/Audit consulting.

However, the 15% bonus takes it up to 97750 which is decent if you are able to get it consistently. As a starting point it is ok and bear in mind that your earning potential should raise over the next few years as you gain experience and are more able to easily move companies.

Getting your foot in the door in Switzerland is no mean feat so if you have an opportunity to do it then I say go for it.
You see, i couldnt find reliable info on graduate wages there. I did think that this would be a decent reference point but what i had found on glassdoor was very variable. Thank you very much for this info Richdog.
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