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Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

Hi there...

I am moving to Switzerland with my daughter (4 years old) in a few months. I will be working in Schindellegi and hoping to live relatively close to work.

Can anyone recommend any nice towns in the nearby area? I have been to Einsiedeln so far (one visit for interview).

Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

Please tell us more about yourself and your situation so we can better advise!
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Well we live in the UK currently, we live in a very small town with no amenities here, so looking for somewhere which has restaurants, cafes, things to do with my daughter on weekends. We have to drive here anytime we do anything so would be nice if I don't have to do that when we move!

I would like to live relatively close to work but not in the town itself so maybe a max 15 min drive. I have been looking at Horgen, Richterswil, Wadenswil, Zug and planning to visit in the next few weeks to look at each area but just would welcome any tips / recommendations / insights.

Currently don't speak the language but about to start lessons.
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Lugano.

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I will be working in Schindellegi
Why not live in Schindellegi?

(You meet the nicest people there. )

But if our shining city on the hill does not appeal, all the surrounding towns have something to offer.

Do you want to stay in Schwyz?
Will you be commuting by car or train?

I couldn't imagine living here without a car, given what I do - but if you are going to stick to trains it might make sense to stick along the S13 or S40.

By the way, have you looked at the tax difference between Ausserschwyz, especially Höfe, and the Zürich villages nearby?
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I just wanted a bit of distance from the office I think?!
I will be getting a car once we are out there.
I like the area of Schwyz (although I need to do more exploring) but just haven't found much information on what to do with children there? I know of the outdoor activities, it is more indoor activities when the weather is poor I guess...
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

There is no poor weather in Ausserschwyz... only poor clothing choices.

Outside is what we do here.

Check out Freizeitpark Erlenmoos, technically Wollerau but on the border with Schindellegi.

http://www.zuerichsee-schwyz.ch/de/e...park-erlenmoos
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

With the great little direct train service from Wadenswil to Schindellegi, you may want to consider Waedenswil itself.

Lots to do for kids including a great badi, and ice rink in winter and one of the few parts of the lake with a great footpath/cycleway along the shore to get around.
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thank you Meloncollie for the link and information.
The park looks great, I think my daughter will have lots of fun there!
I may have the wardrobe already to suit

Thank you Tom1234

That is a good point thank you. And great to hear there is lots for the kids.
I will definitely spend some time there and explore.

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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

Welcome!

I would love to provide more links on what to do when relocating as a Mom with a 4 year old to that area, but my own experience of the same would be about 20 years out-dated.

Wish that meetup.com had existed at that time - there seem to be many groups that might be of interest to you.

Have never tried it myself, but it seems to offer a lot of possibilities of making contact in that area, outside of deciding on a good place to make your home.

Wish you all the best on your re-location!
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...looking for somewhere which has restaurants, cafes...
Bear in mind that cafes and restaurants are rather more expensive here than in the UK.
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

Another thing to bear in mind: The 'bottom half of the lake' area, that is, from Wädenswil to Wollerau to Rapperswil to Einsiedeln is pretty compact.

You might not find everything on your checklist in one village but it's only a few minutes to the next village. I live in Schindellegi but regularly bumble around the whole area running my errands, meeting colleagues for coffee, walking my dogs. My doctors are in Einsiedeln, Altendorf and Pfäffikon, the various businesses I use are scattered throughout the region.

Which is to say: Choose where to live based on schools, available housing and commute. (And taxes if you are at the level where it matters.) The entertainment/socializing component on your checklist can be found throughout the region, just a hop, skip, and a jump away.

Good luck!


Another thought: Do you speak German?
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

thank you all for your responses

Thanks NotAllThere appreciate the cost of things is going to be higher than what I am used too. But I understand off set by a better lifestyle?

Ok, thanks for the tips melon collie we don't speak German, yet so that is definitely not ideal. How can I find out what schools are goo? word of mouth?

And yes that's true, such great transport links will be a true novelty!
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Schools is easy, your daughter gets assigned to one, not much choice
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Ok, thanks for the tips melon collie we don't speak German, yet so that is definitely not ideal. How can I find out what schools are goo? word of mouth?
The choice component of schools is you choose the community. Within the community you will be assigned to a school.

As to which schools are 'good'... I do not have children here so cannot speak to our local schools, especially how family of non-German speakers might adjust. If you are seriously considering Schindellegi I could put you in contact with a local parent who is a dual US/CH citizen, but that comparison might not be helpful as your frame of reference is the UK, and her children are bi-lingual. I don't know any Brits here - although eavesdropping on accents there are one or two in the community.

Are you working with a relocation agent? If so, bring up schooling, have the agent put you in touch with the schools/other parents in the communities you are considering. Or speak to your HR folks; if you are working for the large international company in Schindellegi from what I have heard there should be decent support to provide info to help you make these decisions.

But honestly - at 4 years old, I wouldn't worry much about schools. Kindergarten is not really as academic as one might be used to back home, the focus will be on gaining social skills, and in the case of your daughter, on language acquisition.

The issue might be for you - how will you communicate with teachers and the school administration? Do not assume there will be English spoken out this way - either in the schools, in local government, in shops, etc.

Wollerau might be a better choice among the Ausserschwyz communities as, since it is the lowest tax community in Switzerland, you find a greater number of very wealthy foreigners, you are likely to find more English speakers. But that said, throughout the area there is something of a resistence to 'over-accomodating' monolingual wealthy foreigners, stemming from current political feelings. If they need you, chances are English will be spoken. If you need them... German.

In any event, if you are living out this way you will need 'functional' German fairly quickly. You don't need to be fluent, but you do need the basics. Even limited mistake-laden German with a smile will get you through the day - but be aware that English is not enough. So make learning German a priority for at least one of you.

This is not to scare you or put you off, simply a heads-up.

All the best... and this really is a lovely area.
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I just wanted a bit of distance from the office I think?!
I will be getting a car once we are out there.
I like the area of Schwyz (although I need to do more exploring) but just haven't found much information on what to do with children there? I know of the outdoor activities, it is more indoor activities when the weather is poor I guess...
Schwyz area is a bit more...traditionalist...let's put it this way. Everything on the Zurich lake shore is a bit more international and you will find people who actually speak English and are not reluctant to use it.
I would really, really think twice before moving to Schwyz. Plus there's not much to do here with a small kid, have some friends who used to live in Pfäffikon (which is at least bigger) and moved from there. I'm just saying.
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Re: Moving to Switzerland soon... Advice on where to live?

If you want to go for the Swiss experience I would go for Einsiedeln. Great little town with all amenities within walking distance. Good weather (less fog in winter) and fantastic oportunities for outdoor activites both summer and winter.

It has good train connections to Zurich and to airport and is also cheaper than villages closer to Zurich lake. Still very low taxes compared to Zurich.

For more international feel, the villages down by Zurich lake are probably more appropriate but also more expensive.
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Are you working with a relocation agent? If so, bring up schooling, have the agent put you in touch with the schools/other parents in the communities you are considering. Or speak to your HR folks; if you are working for the large international company in Schindellegi from what I have heard there should be decent support to provide info to help you make these decisions.
Yes, and also bring up the costs of learning German. If you have any room for negotiating, then get a German course thrown in, not only for the employed person, but for the other family members.


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The issue might be for you - how will you communicate with teachers and the school administration? Do not assume there will be English spoken out this way - either in the schools, in local government, in shops, etc.

...there is something of a resistence to 'over-accomodating' monolingual wealthy foreigners, .... If they need you, chances are English will be spoken. If you need them... German.
Yes, well said. The locals, and not only the "original Swiss" (whomever that includes) but also the long-term immigrants find it such a relief when the newbies bother make the effort to learn the local language.


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you will need 'functional' German fairly quickly. You don't need to be fluent, but you do need the basics. Even limited mistake-laden German with a smile will get you through the day - but be aware that English is not enough. So make learning German a priority..
Yes! Don't put this off, but go ahead learn the basics of salutation and courtesy, and 20 main verbs and 30 significant nouns, before you arrive. It is amazing how far you can get with just those. If your first aim is to show goodwill, you will receive it, too. As you go along, you should learn the language properly, with classes and daily practice.
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Einsiedeln is nice, would also suggest it.
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