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What would you do differently?

We will be moving to Switzerland soon and in my preparation of packing up, paperwork, finding a place to live and schools, etc I'd like to know what mistakes you've made along the way. What would you do differently if you could do it all over again?
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We will be moving to Switzerland soon and in my preparation of packing up, paperwork, finding a place to live and schools, etc I'd like to know what mistakes you've made along the way. What would you do differently if you could do it all over again?
If I could do it all over again, I would use the search function.
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What would you do differently if you could do it all over again?
Gotten rid of my US citizenship before my kids were born.

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We will be moving to Switzerland soon and in my preparation of packing up, paperwork, finding a place to live and schools, etc I'd like to know what mistakes you've made along the way. What would you do differently if you could do it all over again?
one of the pitfalls is that you pay too much for insurances, phone and internet contracts etc because you don't know the market before moving here. i would figure that out very well and make sure that you have contracts that you can terminate after a year so that you can reconsider.

also, find out how to terminate a contract in Switzerland
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Re: What would you do differently?

I would not register and enrol for health insurance the last couple of days of a month, and be stung to pay for the whole of that month apart from that ... nothing. We did think we should have moved to a lower tax area - but then we realised everything here is much cheaper - and being so close to France really helps with shopping costs. We could never ever have bought our wonderful home in a low tax area- they just don't exist any more at that price. All in, we are still much better off here than in low tax area. That would be even more so for a family, as childcare is heavily subsidised for all, and for those with multiple dogs, etc.
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Re: What would you do differently?

(and I'm not being snarky)

I'd have done a lot more research on all the possible downsides... I was way too optimistic.

If you're being looked after in terms of job/relocation and are in a good place in terms of money, health, kids, education, accommodation, relationships, inner well being etc etc.. then it probably all looks rosy.

But.. should any one of these 'life issues' go wonky you'll soon realise you're a long way from home.

Having said that.. I've been here a long time.. have got over lots of bumps and have survived.

Does that help ?
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Re: What would you do differently?

If I could do it all over again, I would not selectively "thanks" a few answers, especially:
-When you got an actually important advice in the posts you ignored to "thanks"

-When the persons who actually answered are the ones with years of experiences who can save you a few thousands CHF in avoiding mistakes, and useful tips.

I guess it's something along "Not biting the hand which is feeding you", and not being ungrateful.

Having said that, good luck in your future failures, as a reward I'll make sure to post a snarky comment when you will post them on EF.
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If I could do it all over again, I would not selectively "thanks" a few answers, especially:
-When you got an actually important advice in the posts you ignored to "thanks"

-When the persons who actually answered are the ones with years of experiences who can save you a few thousands CHF in avoiding mistakes, and useful tips.

I guess it's something along "Not biting the hand which is feeding you", and not being ungrateful.

Having said that, good luck in your future failures, as a reward I'll make sure to post a snarky comment when you will post them on EF.
Have your coffee, son. You're looking cranky, even for you.
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Re: What would you do differently?

Not have got married. We do not have children together - but the tax and social systems seem to punish you for making this commitment.
Still trying to work out the benefits - except for widows pension and inheritance (N/A in our case).
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Re: What would you do differently?

I would say the main thing is not to get caught in the expat bubble, even if it's only a short term assignment.

Learning enough German to get by with day to day interactions is one key factor. You'll always have an accent, and make mistakes, but if you can just reach a level where you can follow the news on TV and read 20minutes on the train you'll feel a lot less isolated and misunderstood when things go pear shaped or work differently from what you're used to. You'll feel more at home if you aren't forced to start every conversation with "Do you speak English?"

Sure, it's nice every now and then to have a natter with someone who comes from "home", but for the other 23 afternoons a month you're taking the car to have it serviced, reading the train schedule, looking for brown sugar in the coop, asking for directions, dealing with correspondence. If you keep yourself behind the communications eight ball you'll probably not be comfortable - even if it's only a 2 year assignment, only the first 6 months will feel like being on vacation... the next 18 will be spent being frustrated at living a temporary existence in a place that doesn't understand you.
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If I could do it all over again, I would use the search function.
Yeah, okay, it did make me laugh .... interestingly your post was temporarily deleted?

How ever, if you'd simply use the search function you would make everybody's mistake all over again as they never seem to come back to let us know it was one.

Very smart formulation of the question. Unfortunately I was dragged here at a far too young age to be of help.
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Re: What would you do differently?

One regret I have is not keeping a diary (I suppose people make blogs these days). But after all these years, it would be interesting to see the leaps and bounds I made, as well as the not-so-fab moments obvs, and the changes in myself and my outlook since I started my new life here.
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Re: What would you do differently?

Two things:

I would not have moved to such rural place, the school here was very bad as they can be.

I would have learned German more intensively when I first arrived, and with a more positive attitude.

Both of these would have made a huge difference ten years later....
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Re: What would you do differently?

I should not have believed all those people that say that they speak German inhere. I speak good German, but it's the German they use in Bremen/Hamburg and such, meaning that the Swiss-German was (and still is) a huge linguistic mystery to me, and on top of that they just mix in French words as it's the normal thing to do in a German language.

We would have married before coming here to avoid a huge mess with a previous divorce i'm stuck in, Switzerland considers me still married and won't do anything for me, and Holland considers me non-irreversibly divorced and won't do anything for me. So according to law inhere my ex of whom i don't even know if she is alive will inherit all my stuff, i can't recognise my own son or get legal saying in this, and i can't marry the woman i love for almost 10 years. Biggest administrative disaster of my live.

For the rest i came pretty well prepared, had the important papers all translated to German included a stamp from the court to make them official.

And nothing can prepare you for the bureaucracy inhere, i am still often amazed.
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One regret I have is not keeping a diary (I suppose people make blogs these days). But after all these years, it would be interesting to see the leaps and bounds I made, as well as the not-so-fab moments obvs, and the changes in myself and my outlook since I started my new life here.
I don't have any regrets and I wouldn't do anything differently, but this is an interesting idea. I'm not a diary person but it would be fun to look back and see how far I've come.
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nothing can prepare you for the bureaucracy inhere, i am still often amazed.
What bureaucracy?

If you find that Switzerland has a lot of bureaucracy, check out the neighbors, they are all 10x worse!

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I would not register and enrol for health insurance the last couple of days of a month.
I didn't do it for over two years.

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I didn't do it for over two years.

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Hang on, are you? Maybe you should tell people that it became mandatory only in 1994
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Re: What would you do differently?

Coincidentally found this website on health-insurance here in English (and other stuff). Might be of intrest to OP and others?
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Re: What would you do differently?

If I'd have known more I wouldn't have come. What I learned couldn't be known and now that i know it I'll be damned if I went through all that for nothing.
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