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UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Hi All,

Before I begin, I've got to say thank you to all the contributes to this forum! It seems every question I have has multiple, well thought out answers (amongst some humour / sarcasm ).

I've currently got an offer to join a tech consulting company in Switzerland. The offer is to join in February and although I haven't signed the contract yet, I will be doing that in the next couple of weeks, once I've crunched the numbers.

I live with my wife and two cats in a 3 bedroom house in a small village just outside of Milton Keynes. I work/commute to Milton Keynes / London. My wife teaches GCSE/A-Level French and German.

The main question I'm grappling with at the moment, is where to live. After quite a bit of research, Baden is a strong contender because of the quick commute to Zurich as well as the ability to commute (within a day) to a few of the other main cities (e.g. Basel and Bern) which I'm likely going to have to do. For me the key is to reduce the commute time where possible and for my wife, it's to have a nice large apartment/small house.... We'll have to settle on something in the middle.

Do you think Baden is a good option for this? Is a budget of 2,750 to 3,000 CHF (which is pushing up to 1/3 gross salary) likely to get us something that is close to the station and reasonably large or well finished? We'd want at-least 2 bedrooms and a large kitchen and lounge (open plan is fine). Looking on homegate, this seems achievable - that said, this is just desk research and I'd like to know the opinion of those on the ground!

We're going to be visiting Zurich later this month, and we'll include Baden in our visit. However, if there are any strong alternative recommendations, we'll try and fit those in as well. Sorry about the essay!

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Q: Is 120k CHF enough? (I'm only joking :-))
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Old 08.10.2017, 14:25
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Welcome to the Forum. I've no answers to your questions, but you're on the right track with your humor about the 120K salary. You'll do fine here.
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Hi and welcome Bman.

Just for clarity, if your new role will be based in Zurich, where does your wife intend to look for work, or does she already have something lined up?

Have you visitied the area before?

Do you intend to have a car here?

Baden is a lovely town. It was quite a revelation to me when we visited in August. Please factor in that you have two cats, as some landlords don't allow pets.
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Just for clarity, if your new role will be based in Zurich, where does your wife intend to look for work, or does she already have something lined up?

Have you visitied the area before?

Do you intend to have a car here?

Baden is a lovely town. It was quite a revelation to me when we visited in August. Please factor in that you have two cats, as some landlords don't allow pets.
My wife doesn't have anything lined up as of yet. She's going to start looking when she moves out here - April to June time. If we're living in Baden, she will focus on looking for something nearby. She's flexible regarding jobs, happy to continue teaching, although she would like to be part-time. If nothing nearby is available, she'll look at Zurich potentially.

We've both been to Switzerland before and I came over to Zurich a couple of times for interviews. However, we've not been to Baden (hence the visit later this month!).

Good question on the car. At the moment, we're intending on having a car. However, this may not be necessary if the links are great and there are shops nearby.

I'm hopeful that most landlords will be OK with the cats, but yes, we've got to factor that in. I'm just glad we don't have dogs as it sounds like that would make the job even harder!
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I live with my wife and two cats in a 3 bedroom house...
Do you think Baden is a good option for this?
Be careful when deciding where to live.
Schloss Hallwyl is not ALL that far away from Baden and this is what goes on there:
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If you don't like your neighbours or their cats, this is your last chance to learn how to shoot an arrow this season.

Provided the weather behaves, on Sunday 22nd of October in Schloss Hallwyl, I and other volunteers can teach you pest control with a bow and arrows.
And I notice that J. Marple 'thanked' your introduction... Suspicious! Watch that gal!

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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Good job we’re quiet neighbours, otherwise it sounds like it’s more than the cats that need to be careful!
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Are the cats indoor cats? Landlords often do not comprehend cats which do not go outdoors. If the cats are outdoor cats then you need to consider how they will get outside.

I honestly cannot say finding a place to live with cats is less difficult than with dogs. In my experience there are landlords who will not allow cats but will allow a small dog.

Your budget will go much further if you look at villages near to Baden. Unless you are within walking distance of the station, you might be better off with a quick bus ride or short train ride to the next village.
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Baden is nice, but also check out Aarau. You will probably be OK without a car in both of these cities, good train links connect them to the main cities and airports.

One thing to watch out for, Kanton Aargau has higher taxes than Kanton Zürich, so what you save in rent you pay in tax.
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

One is an indoor cat and the other goes out in the evenings for a few hours. However, if needed, she can be indoors.

Interesting about villages outside of Baden - do you have any recommendations so I can have a quick look online?

I guess my concern is that the commute of villiage > Baden > Zurich is likely to surpass 40-50 mins. I’d love to have it at 30-35mins. We’re not necessarily tied to a quick commute to Baden, just Zurich, so villiage > Zurich would work if it’s quicker.
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Perhaps have a look in Ennetbaden on the other side of the Limmat but still possible to walk to the station in Baden.

Maybe worth considering is Brugg, as the fast trains stop there as well.
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Interesting about villages outside of Baden - do you have any recommendations so I can have a quick look online?

I guess my concern is that the commute of villiage > Baden > Zurich is likely to surpass 40-50 mins. I’d love to have it at 30-35mins. We’re not necessarily tied to a quick commute to Baden, just Zurich, so villiage > Zurich would work if it’s quicker.
We used to live in Freienwil, just outside Baden. I don't remember how long bus `+ train to Zurich took, as I only did that trip occasionally....but it was not a torture.

Try to put your UK public transport experience to one side. Here, if the bus is scheduled for 10:13, that's when it will happen. And the buses are usually aligned to the train times, which is a nice idea (and shockingly sensible compared to UK bus concepts )

I have nearly (after 6 years) stopped planning in "what if the bus is late, train is late" to my journeys.
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Be careful when deciding where to live.
Schloss Hallwyl is not ALL that far away from Baden and this is what goes on there:
And I notice that J. Marple 'thanked' your introduction... Suspicious! Watch that gal!
It was a nice introduction, despite the cats.

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One is an indoor cat and the other goes out in the evenings for a few hours. However, if needed, she can be indoors.
To do what? Have you asked? Have you smelled its breath? Checked its pupils?
Have you had "the talk"? Does it know about contraception?

Are you two responsible parents?


Baden is a lovely little town, and well connected by public transport to Zurich.

I wonder how far I can shoot...
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Perhaps have a look in Ennetbaden on the other side of the Limmat but still possible to walk to the station in Baden.

Maybe worth considering is Brugg, as the fast trains stop there as well.
Both are good options and Brugg > Zurich is only an extra 7 minutes so definitely viable. I've believe it's best to go through a housing agent as given demand they're normally a couple of steps ahead of the game.

I've also read somewhere that February is a good time to move as that is when a lot of lets come to an end... is this true?


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To do what? Have you asked? Have you smelled its breath? Checked its pupils?
Have you had "the talk"? Does it know about contraception?

Are you two responsible parents?
I wonder how far I can shoot...
She's a responsible young lady and is aware of her curfew. Also, a rescue... so contraception talks are redundant....

You're going to need a longbow...

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Try to put your UK public transport experience to one side. Here, if the bus is scheduled for 10:13, that's when it will happen. And the buses are usually aligned to the train times, which is a nice idea (and shockingly sensible compared to UK bus concepts )
Sounds like bliss. Although I'm not quite sure if I'm ready to take the village>Baden>Zurich plunge.
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Have you had a look at the towns and villages on the outskirts of Zurich, such as Dübendorf and Effretikon?
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

As you read this Forum, you might notice there are some pitfalls waiting for the inexperienced.

Push the boat out and buy a book about living and working in Switzerland.
If you follow it, you will save time and money. Buy the latest version, now February 2015, as the Swiss laws change!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...in+Switzerland
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As you read this Forum, you might notice there are some pitfalls waiting for the inexperienced.

Push the boat out and buy a book about living and working in Switzerland.
If you follow it, you will save time and money. Buy the latest version, now February 2015, as the Swiss laws change!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...in+Switzerland
I would second this suggestion. It is an excellent book and well worth the investment.
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Re: UK to Switzerland - Intro and questions

Everything is impressively well-connected by public transport and very timely in Switzerland. I would say commuting by public transport would be more dependable than driving. If your company isn't providing temporary housing for when you arrive, you might find it helpful to find a temporary sublet (i.e. AirBnB) for a few months, and then you can visit areas and potential accommodation once you are here. That also makes housing applications easier.
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