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31.10.2017, 23:34
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| | 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern
Hi . I'm designer (Bachelor of Arts). I'm creating hand made oil landscapes few times a year, and working as a Graphic Designer. I adore GB and Portugal but now I'm staying in Bern.
I'm in love with languages since I was 5, studying them, thanks to my parents day by day.
My hobbies are writing articles, teaching painting, playing electro guitar, piano, sing cover songs and my poetry in 7 languages, dance, especially latin american dances like pasa doble, rumba , tango , etc. Playing big tennis. Horseback riding. Bodybuilding. Photoshooting with Canon.
I am in Bern , willing to travel around.
I also love USA, Norway and GB.
Will be happy to have new friends in facebook.
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01.11.2017, 00:33
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | Hi . I'm designer (Bachelor of Arts). I'm creating hand made oil landscapes few times a year, and working as a Graphic Designer. I adore GB and Portugal but now I'm staying in Bern.
I'm in love with languages since I was 5, studying them, thanks to my parents day by day.
My hobbies are writing articles, teaching painting, playing electro guitar, piano, sing cover songs and my poetry in 7 languages, dance, especially latin american dances like pasa doble, rumba , tango , etc. Playing big tennis. Horseback riding. Bodybuilding. Photoshooting with Canon.
I am in Bern , willing to travel around.
I also love USA, Norway and GB.
Will be happy to have new friends in facebook. | | | | | Hi Beautifulcoffee, welcome to EF. You sound busy
PS:What are you shocked about?
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01.11.2017, 08:35
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern
Welcome and enjoy.
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | |
PS:What are you shocked about?
| | | | | A teaser to get attention?
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05.11.2017, 14:08
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | A teaser to get attention? | | | | | shouting "wolf"? Good luck to her then | 
05.11.2017, 18:19
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | Hi Beautifulcoffee, welcome to EF. You sound busy 
PS:What are you shocked about? | | | | | Oh curly, it's a good sign, I adored your avatar, I even saved it when I was reading forum , few monthes before the registration; I am also curly, and smile like this face  )))))))))
About the rule of 2017 , that says I'm not alloud to work in S. as a romanian.
I made a topic where I'm asking what to do with my abilities and situation, register at the apartments where I'm renting a room, or register at some agency as a Romanian searching for a job according to my Diplomas or just work without or with registration as a self-employed https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...eu-not-eu.html
I'll be glad to see you there guys.
Which fields are you working into? I even loved that topic where a guy find a job in a McDonalds, he was soo happy I loved it | 
05.11.2017, 18:50
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | Oh curly, it's a good sign, I adored your avatar, I even saved it when I was reading forum , few monthes before the registration; I am also curly, and smile like this face )))))))))
About the rule of 2017 , that says I'm not alloud to work in S. as a romanian.
I made a topic where I'm asking what to do with my abilities and situation, register at the apartments where I'm renting a room, or register at some agency as a Romanian searching for a job according to my Diplomas or just work without or with registration as a self-employed https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...eu-not-eu.html
I'll be glad to see you there guys.
Which fields are you working into? I even loved that topic where a guy find a job in a McDonalds, he was soo happy I loved it  | | | | |
I think you can register as a job seeker and get a temporary residence permit (at the Gemeinde, or town hall where you currently reside of course) but it won't be of much help. It can last maximum 6 months as far as I know. You need a work permit even for McDonalds or a cleaning company, and you will not get it since it's a low-skilled job.
You are allowed to work in any of the EU countries, why here where it's the most difficult....
Anyway, as a designer or a photographer, what is your portfolio, did you contact any company? If you find a company that is willing to hire you, they will have to apply for a work permit on your behalf. Do you have any certificate to attest your language proficiency at a teaching level? Or, do you hold any certificate that can recommend you to work as a trainer or tutor in any of those things you are passionate about? That could be an alternative.
But.
EU-2 has restricted access on the Swiss labour market, so even if you do find something, there are big chances the respective company can't get a work permit for you.
Sorry to put it so bluntly.
Good luck anyway.
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05.11.2017, 19:04
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | Oh curly, it's a good sign, I adored your avatar, I even saved it when I was reading forum , few monthes before the registration; I am also curly, and smile like this face )))))))))
About the rule of 2017 , that says I'm not alloud to work in S. as a romanian.
I made a topic where I'm asking what to do with my abilities and situation, register at the apartments where I'm renting a room, or register at some agency as a Romanian searching for a job according to my Diplomas or just work without or with registration as a self-employed https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...eu-not-eu.html
I'll be glad to see you there guys.
Which fields are you working into? I even loved that topic where a guy find a job in a McDonalds, he was soo happy I loved it  | | | | | LOL, wow you did? Be careful, it's under my copyright  so do not use it anywhere (as I use it everywhere, not only here)!
As to your work-problem here I can't help at all. I checked what your problem is exactly and admit, it must feel depressing being an EU-member yet not get treated as such. (It's kind of a double negative. LOL, sorry, my anti-EU-attitude sometimes shines through).
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09.11.2017, 05:02
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | I think you can register as a job seeker and get a temporary residence permit (at the Gemeinde, or town hall where you currently reside of course) but it won't be of much help. It can last maximum 6 months as far as I know. You need a work permit even for McDonalds or a cleaning company, and you will not get it since it's a low-skilled job.
You are allowed to work in any of the EU countries, why here where it's the most difficult....
Anyway, as a designer or a photographer, what is your portfolio, did you contact any company? If you find a company that is willing to hire you, they will have to apply for a work permit on your behalf. Do you have any certificate to attest your language proficiency at a teaching level? Or, do you hold any certificate that can recommend you to work as a trainer or tutor in any of those things you are passionate about? That could be an alternative.
But.
EU-2 has restricted access on the Swiss labour market, so even if you do find something, there are big chances the respective company can't get a work permit for you.
Sorry to put it so bluntly.
Good luck anyway. | | | | | Thank you for this reply.
No, I didn't contact  It's all about How-to-make it-the-better-way to be-hired-by-having-a-permit.
Can you tell me how exactly should I google to find an adress in Bern or Geneve and to check the rules on their web-site --- at the Gemeinde, or town hall You are allowed to work in any of the EU countries, why here where it's the most difficult.... Actually (laughing) I was sure that after Switzerland all the other lands will be easy for me)))))))))) Like a training in a life))))))))
But , listen, if I am a citizen of Poland - do I need a working permit or I can just START to work in the company? As a citizen of Poland.
Thank you very much, it's a pleasure to read you. | Quote: | |  | | | LOL, wow you did? Be careful, it's under my copyright so do not use it anywhere (as I use it everywhere, not only here)!
As to your work-problem here I can't help at all. I checked what your problem is exactly and admit, it must feel depressing being an EU-member yet not get treated as such. (It's kind of a double negative. LOL, sorry, my anti-EU-attitude sometimes shines through).
But you live in Bern. How are you able to do that then? You're rich?  | | | | | Definately, I will use it in a future to look at and remind myself how sunny this forum is. If it's under your copyright (I'm serious now) - do you draw it via hand? =]
Yeah, thank you for understanding my feelings.
You are saying Anti - Eu like you are somewhere from Asia)))
It's not that expensive, especially with my habit to cook home. If I'd be rich , I'll just buy a house onto the mountain and wake up in the 5:00 AM and posting here a photos of a landscapes
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09.11.2017, 08:44
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| | Re: 25+ Designer, translator , photographer shocked lady in Bern | Quote: | |  | | | But , listen, if I am a citizen of Poland - do I need a working permit or I can just START to work in the company? As a citizen of Poland.
Thank you very much, it's a pleasure to read you. | | | | | Yeah, I understand your dilemma. Basically, yes. If you had a Polish passport it would have been a formality to get your residence permit and everything once you found a job and signed the contract.
Poland and the rest of EU-8 (new EU) have been through the same process, just so you know, only they were a little more advanced because they adhered to EU agreements a few years earlier. EU-2 has a different agreement with the Helvetic Confederation. C'est la vie, as they say in Cotonou..  If it helps, Croatia is in the same situ.
I would say, try again next year, maybe the restrictions will be lifted. Make a good portfolio and send your CV to as many companies, big or small, as you can. Learn German, learn German, learn German. Not saying - don't be open with the French side, should possibilities arise, but I think this is where you want to be.
And learn German some more.
Sorry, almost forgot- you need to contact Stadt Bern, Einwohnerdienste http://www.bern.ch/themen/umzug
(but as you know, you don't need any permit for up to 90 days as a tourist)
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