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Is it legal?

My friends came to Switzerland to visit. They booked at European Voyages in India and were a group of 10. They were picked up from the Zürich Airport by 2 cars which were rented from Europacar and were dropped off near Zürich Haupt Bahnhof in a parking.
There, a mini-bus (14 or 15 seater) was waiting for them. It was from Slovenia. My friends asked the driver why he hadn't picked them up directly from the airport to which he said, foreigner buses weren't allowed at the airport. This was a strange reply for them because if the foreigner bus wasn't allowed at the airport, then why was it allowed at the railway station.
They did the one week tour with this mini-bus. When they asked the driver something, he didn't speak German and spoke English very little.
Whenever they stopped the mini-bus, the driver tried to hide himself so that he couldn't be seen with the vehicle. This was strange. He said that his company name was Faniani Coaches.
On the drop off day, the same happened. He left them at Zürich HB and not directly at the Airport. 2 Cars then dropped them off at the Airport again.

Is it normal for a foreigner vehicle to pick the client up from somewhere else and not directly from the Airport? And then do a tour here?
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Old 24.04.2018, 18:51
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Re: Is it legal?

It does not surprise me. Unauthorised taxis are shunned at Zurich airport.

Sounds like your pals booked themselves an unauthrised - maybe even unlicensed coach company. Did it not seem strange that it was from Slovenia and the driver didn‘t speak German? Dis they have to pay in used CHF100 notes??
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.... Dis they have to pay in used CHF100 notes??
Lucky those haven't been replaced yet
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Old 24.04.2018, 19:11
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Re: Is it legal?

Foreign registered vehicles used for transport CANNOT operate within Switzerland, it can only be a start or end-point.

For example, if they were to take you fron ZRH to another country, no problem.

But from ZRH to anywhere else in CH, totally illegal.

They probably figured that they were less likely to be caught ar ZHB than at ZRH.

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P.S. ZHB = Zurich Main Station, ZRH = Zurich Airport
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Foreign registered vehicles used for transport CANNOT operate within Switzerland, it can only be a start or end-point.

For example, if they were to take you fron ZRH to another country, no problem.

But from ZRH to anywhere else in CH, totally illegal.
What if a group in Italy, started their journey, visited CH for few days and continued off to France?

Do they need a CH registered vehicle for their CH visit?
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Old 24.04.2018, 19:34
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What if a group in Italy, started their journey, visited CH for few days and continued off to France?

Do they need a CH registered vehicle for their CH visit?
AFAIK different story as the trip does not start and end in Switzerland.
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AFAIK different story as the trip does not start and end in Switzerland.
Yes, but they can say they picked up only a part of the group in CH and continued on
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Yes, but they can say they picked up only a part of the group in CH and continued on
Might be, but that can be checked

And as they clearly avoided ZRH, that is already a sign something is not right
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Might be, but that can be checked

And as they clearly avoided ZRH, that is already a sign something is not right
There is absolutely something fishy about it. Most likely they are breaking the law. But it's Balkan company so for sure they found some kind of a loophole
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But it's Balkan company
Is Slovenia a Balkan country?
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Is Slovenia a Balkan country?
It has to be, it's on the Balkan peninsula

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans
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He said that his company name was Faniani Coaches.
I'm still laughing at the business name I couldn't believe it was real...but it is!

http://www.faniani-coaches.com/
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Re: Is it legal?

Sounds to me like a company that doesnt hold a licence (and possibly lack of proper insurance) for that kind of offer.

Guess they got lucky nothing happened.

For me, definitely fishy if not outright illegal.

checked their website. one of their main selling point apparently os:

"* All seats equipped with seat belts!"
ummm.. wow!...

Last edited by YuropFlyer; 24.04.2018 at 21:38. Reason: * All seats equipped with seat belts
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Sounds to me like a company that doesnt hold a licence (and possibly lack of proper insurance) for that kind of offer.

Guess they got lucky nothing happened.

For me, definitely fishy if not outright illegal.

checked their website. one of their main selling point apparently os:

"* All seats equipped with seat belts!"
ummm.. wow!...
Shouldn't that be ejection seats - in case of a police control? Quick way to remove all evidence.
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Is Slovenia a Balkan country?
Unless they've moved to the Baltic region.

Meanwhile, just ask the US first lady!

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Re: Is it legal?

It's called "cabotage". Here is a bit of legalese about it, sadly only in DE/FR/IT. It basically sais that domestic commercial transports of people or goods with trucks/buses that are not registered, taxed and dutied (sic) in Switzerland are illegal.
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I want to know which 2 numpties voted "yes" it is legal??
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It does not surprise me so much, unofficial bus is not safe for foreigners
This makes no sense whatsoever.

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This makes no sense whatsoever.

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I want to know which 2 numpties voted "yes" it is legal??
I actually wonder why it's not? (no, I did not vote at all above )
An other EU "protect the market" idea? It works both ways.

Does the rule go for a French transport company in Germany (for example) too?
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Faniani Coaches.
They should stop Faniani about
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