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2 weeks until Zurich!

Hi All,
My partner and I are moving to Zurich at the end of July for my new job (Hinwil). I’m Australian and she’s American, but have been living in England for 9 years.
Struggling to find anywhere who’ll accept our rental application, and busy getting my head around health insurance after so long in the U.K., but very much looking forward to it.
Any general tips/recommendations welcome.
I’d be interested in the following:
- suggestions on where to live
- where young folk hang out (we are both 27)
- any ladies football /basketball teams to join
- restaurants/bars
- best phone/health insurance
- contents insurance, is it compulsory ??
- any info on the Swiss feeling toward the LGBT community

Thanks!
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

Welcome to the forum and soon to Switzerland.

What is the official status of your relationship in the UK? Are you married or in a same-sex registered partnership? It may make a difference in getting permits here.

https://www.ch.ch/en/registered-partnership/

If you're not official then it's going to be harder to get a permit for your partner.

https://www.ch.ch/en/cohabiting/

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification

You may need to have temp accommodation for a while until you can find a permanent place.

Health insurance depends on what you want. Basic cover is very good and mandatory for everyone, costs for that don't really vary. It's more what sort of health insurance model you may want and what franchise you decide to take.

https://www.ch.ch/en/health-insurance/

The franchise is the amount you would pay out of your own pocket first before the health insurance kicks in. You choose this from options from CHF300 up to CHF2,500. So if you have 300 you'd pay the first 300 of any medical costs for example. Then the insurance will pay 90% of the next CHF7,000 of costs while you pay the remaining 10%. After that the insurance covers everything until the new year when it all goes back to the beginning. Play around with comparis.ch to see what's best for you.

Also don't know how your partner's found the banking in the UK since FATCA, but here Americans are pretty toxic and most banks won't accept them. UBS, Credit Suisse and PostFinance are likely to be your only options.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

have a look here

https://www.ronorp.net/zuerich

In general Zürich is reputed to be one of the most boring cities in the world. So thumbs up and don't get depressed!

https://www.smartertravel.com/2017/0...-cities-world/
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

- For digs: look at the various Facebook groups in Zurich - Its tough, really tough. Maybe a flat share or sublet if you can find one to get you through the first few months

- Areas: well I live between Wiedikon and Langstrasse. Area 8003 and 8004, so I am bias, this is a great area to be in.

-Places to hang out: Langstrasse, Hardbrucke areas. Bars: Kennedys, Paddys, Taliker, Frau Gerolds, Rio, Sansi, Bagatelle, Rif Raf. The list goes on, youll find your way

- Phone: Post Paid Yallo

- Health insurance: Probably Asura is the cheapest, but have a look on www.comparis.ch

- Content insurances: Hmmm not sure if compulsary, but its very cheap. Combine it with personal liability insurance and its maybe 200 CHF a year. Have a look at Zurich Connect

-LGBT community: Zurich just had the big pride event the other week
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Welcome to the forum and soon to Switzerland.

What is the official status of your relationship in the UK? Are you married or in a same-sex registered partnership? It may make a difference in getting permits here.

https://www.ch.ch/en/registered-partnership/

If you're not official then it's going to be harder to get a permit for your partner.

https://www.ch.ch/en/cohabiting/

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification

You may need to have temp accommodation for a while until you can find a permanent place.

Health insurance depends on what you want. Basic cover is very good and mandatory for everyone, costs for that don't really vary. It's more what sort of health insurance model you may want and what franchise you decide to take.

https://www.ch.ch/en/health-insurance/

The franchise is the amount you would pay out of your own pocket first before the health insurance kicks in. You choose this from options from CHF300 up to CHF2,500. So if you have 300 you'd pay the first 300 of any medical costs for example. Then the insurance will pay 90% of the next CHF7,000 of costs while you pay the remaining 10%. After that the insurance covers everything until the new year when it all goes back to the beginning. Play around with comparis.ch to see what's best for you.

Also don't know how your partner's found the banking in the UK since FATCA, but here Americans are pretty toxic and most banks won't accept them. UBS, Credit Suisse and PostFinance are likely to be your only options.
We are civil partnered. We got partnered in Chicago, Illinois. Apparently it’s not recognised in Switzerland because Illinois partnerships are only state recognised
In England, they recognise apparently every partnership under an act that basically says we are humans and we recognise you’re a human.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

Welcome to Zurich!

I just completed the move from the states two months ago.

Housing: Look for temporary digs while you are here. I got a serviced apartment for the first month while I looked for a place. I rented a place through here in Oerlikon. https://www.relocag.ch/?lang=en. I've mentioned before, it wasn't the most amazing.. but it got the job done.

Where to live: that a tricky one here on the forums. Everyone has their opinion. I'd say... wherever you can afford. Most everything in Zurich is well connected by trams and trains. If your German is good, then you could feed comfortable moving a bit further out, but for the younger crowd staying within Zurich is good. But all depends on your budget. Let us know that, and you'll have all kinds of answers

Insurance: Use Comparis.ch to start looking at it. It's compulsory, at least a minimum level. While the base level is the same the price does very, as do the level of service. The cheapest insurance may make you pay for things first and then send in receipts. Other insurance will allow the doctor to bill the insurance and then send you a bill for what you need to pay. While the level of care should be equal the level of service may not. There is plenty to read up on in the forum.

LGBTQ - Yes, Pride was here a few weeks ago. We also have the Street Parade on August 11th. Which is the biggest EDM street festival since they cancelled the Love Parade! So, who said Zurich is boring? There are a few gay bars and clubs I've just started exploring them. Let me know if you want someone to go with you!

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We are civil partnered. We got partnered in Chicago, Illinois. Apparently it’s not recognised in Switzerland because Illinois partnerships are only state recognised
In England, they recognise apparently every partnership under an act that basically says we are humans and we recognise you’re a human.
This may cause problems then. As you're not in an officially recognised union you will likely be seen as two separate individuals. Since you're both also non-EU's it's not necessarily a simple case of your partner moving with you. She will either need a pre-approved work permit of her own via a Swiss employer or you might be able to get what is called a concubine permit for her - for which you will have to agree to be responsible for her financially for 5 years and she won't be able to work here with that permit.

I suggest you contact the Zurich canton migration office asap to find out what your options are.

https://ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherheit...rnational.html
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

- suggestions on where to live
How long is a piece of string Depends on what your priorities are, as well as your budget of course.

- where young folk hang out (we are both 27)
Same here, depends on your taste of music, whether you prefer bars/pubs over clubs, outdoors vs indoors, concerts vs parties...

- restaurants/bars
Preferred cuisine? Upscale-fancy vs chilled-relaxed?

- best phone/health insurance
Phone: not sure.
Health: there's not much in way of better or worse in terms of coverage. Basic insurance covers the same anyway, complementary insurances may differ in cost, but sometimes it's worth paying a few extra bucks. Highly subjective of course, so best to do some research - but be aware that if you have no insurance before the first three months are up, you will receive one automatically, selected by the commune. Charge will be retroactively (no matter what) as having health insurance is mandatory from day 1.

- contents insurance, is it compulsory ??
No (not in Zurich anyway), but definitely recommended

- any info on the Swiss feeling toward the LGBT community
They will be neutral, as with everything
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This may cause problems then. As you're not in an officially recognised union you will likely be seen as two separate individuals. Since you're both also non-EU's it's not necessarily a simple case of your partner moving with you. She will either need a pre-approved work permit of her own via a Swiss employer or you might be able to get what is called a concubine permit for her - for which you will have to agree to be responsible for her financially for 5 years and she won't be able to work here with that permit.
You will have to move alone. There is no way you will get a permit within two weeks for a non EU. You should have checked this earlier. Sorry. But this is a deal-breaker.
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You will have to move alone. There is no way you will get a permit within two weeks for a non EU. You should have checked this earlier. Sorry. But this is a deal-breaker.

Maybe look into a UK civil partnership or marriage? As in just nip down your local registry office as soon as you possibly can.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

OP, she can come with you, but she will be considered a regular tourist, i.e. for 89 days. Then she has to leave the Schengen area for 180 days.


During those 279 days, the both of you need to be working on getting her a concubine permit. It is the only way.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

In another post on a different thread, OP says she is Greek. Stay tuned.
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We are civil partnered. We got partnered in Chicago, Illinois. Apparently it’s not recognised in Switzerland because Illinois partnerships are only state recognised
In England, they recognise apparently every partnership under an act that basically says we are humans and we recognise you’re a human.
Not everyone in Switzerland is recognized as a human
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In another post on a different thread, OP says she is Greek. Stay tuned.
If she has indeed a Greek passport then this changes everything. but they Need to get married again. Not sure how this works. But because their marriage is not recognised this should be possible. Easiest would be to do this in the UK.


Otherwise yes, she can come for 90 days as a Tourist but can't work during that time.


Concubine Permit does not exist in Zurich as far as I know. She should talk to her employer maybe they can help her.
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If she has indeed a Greek passport then this changes everything. but they Need to get married again. Not sure how this works. But because their marriage is not recognised this should be possible. Easiest would be to do this in the UK.


Otherwise yes, she can come for 90 days as a Tourist but can't work during that time.


Concubine Permit does not exist in Zurich as far as I know. She should talk to her employer maybe they can help her.
Yes, they do offer it, but one report I saw a while ago was that an EU/non-EU couple could get them, but not a non-EU/non-EU so if the OP can enter using their EU nationality it may help.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

Hello all, thanks for the contributions.
To clarify a few points:
  • I am Greek, my partner is American.
    Employer won't offer any help with immigration, I've hired a lawyer who is now looking into getting her a cohabiting partner visa.
    I'v been looking into this since I got offered the position over a month ago, it is difficult since nobody really knows you get many different answers.

Just found a serviced apartment for a month, so that will give us some time to look around for more permanent accommodation.
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But what passport do you travel with? That will likely dictate what nationality the Swiss see you as since you need to present your passport for registering, opening bank accounts, etc.
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Re: 2 weeks until Zurich!

Here some groups that might be able to provide more info. on activities and immigration factors:

https://www.meetup.com/Zurich-LGBT-P...nts/252478050/

The Swiss "official site" is: http://los.ch/de/
For what it's worth. Only in German or French, but extremely limited

Here the tourist recommendations - but might help you to provide some input to what you're looking for: https://www.inyourpocket.com/zurich/Gay-and-Lesbian

Otherwise, and probably a good guide and starting point: http://www.her2her.com/

Didn't find other sites, but there must be more. Use Google translate if needed.

Wishing you both all the best!
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