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New in Lausanne - EPFL

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I will be working in Lausanne (EPFL) from Feb - June of next year (2019), moving from the US, and am very excited. Also a little worried about housing and schools (for my kids, 8 and 11)! I have so many questions, but I guess my primary one is regarding housing - do I have any hope of finding housing remotely (i.e. from the US, over the internet) in advance of arriving, or should I just plan to arrive a few weeks early to find lodging? From what I read the Lausanne housing is very tight, and also the transfer of funds in advance seems tricky and somewhat risky.... Any advice (or redirection to appropriate threads) is appreciated!

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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Not sure I understood correctly.

You'll be moving for only fours months, or you will be moving to Switzerland permanently sometime between February and June of next year?


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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Welcome to the Forum. +1 to Sky's questions.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Sorry for the lack of clarity! It's a temporary move, only for 5 months to Lausanne, and then back to the US. Thanks for responding!
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Since it's a temporary stay, then I would suggest you contact the international private schools with an American or an English curriculum so that your little ones' education is not disrupted.

http://www.swiss-schools.ch/en/

Lemania, La Chatagnerie, ISL (International School Lausanne), and (my favorite) Geneva English School are worth contacting.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

For 4 or 5 months during school term, I wouldn't even consider bringing the family.

You are looking at temporary accomodation or air-bnb. It would take you at least 4 months on the ground to find normal accomodation in Lausanne unless very lucky, and no one would rent for such a short time.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Or else you could commute from our area of France - many do on a daily basis, where you can take the ferry from Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne and where housing [along with most other commodities] is far less expensive than in Switzerland. If you need further help, do not hesitate to send us a PM.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Thank you very much for that suggestion, I did not know that living in France was an option!
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Our nextdoor neighbour commutes to the CHUV [that is the University Hospital to the north of Lausanne] on a daily basis : additionally one of my ex-students who lives further away from the Lake shore, commutes to the EPFL on a daily basis. There are special fares for commuters [meaning a monthly season ticket] which makes the journey across the Lake reasonably priced. To see the timetable, prices and general information, view

https://www.cgn.ch/fr/cgn-mobilite/#horaires
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Thank you very much for that suggestion, I did not know that living in France was an option!
As OP is non-EU, I am not sure living in France is an option...
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

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Hello,

I will be working in Lausanne (EPFL) from Feb - June of next year (2019), moving from the US, and am very excited. Also a little worried about housing and schools (for my kids, 8 and 11)! I have so many questions, but I guess my primary one is regarding housing - do I have any hope of finding housing remotely (i.e. from the US, over the internet) in advance of arriving, or should I just plan to arrive a few weeks early to find lodging? From what I read the Lausanne housing is very tight, and also the transfer of funds in advance seems tricky and somewhat risky.... Any advice (or redirection to appropriate threads) is appreciated!

CT
As this is only for 5 months I don't see why would you transfer any money. Can't you use debit/credit card?

For the apartment, sometimes people move out temporarily for various reasons and sublet, do advertise on FB and other forums.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Thanks for all the feedback! I am hoping that I will get lucky to find an apartment, perhaps in between renters. There is some help from EPFL with them providing housing listings every week. What do people feel about how easy it would be for the kids to start local school, and attend for five months? It sounds like they may struggle with the language issue, but honestly I am not sure that private school is in the budget unfortunately. So... the question would be whether they might get any help with their French, or whether they would just be completely lost.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

As stated above, do you really want to bring children here for 5 months during school term?

What would be the goal? They are not going to be fluent in french in that time. Will they have to repeat the school year back in the USA for the missed time here? Normally the french local schools would have some sort of integration class to help with intensive french, but if you mention you are here for only 5 months, I'm sure they are going to wonder what is the point and if places are limited, why invest if for such a short time. They will not be able to follow much in the normal class for 3 months or so. If international school is out of the question, have you thought about home schooling to keep up the curricula at home so they don't have to repeat? Use the afternoons or weekends to explore CH and europe as a self study maybe.

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I am hoping that I will get lucky to find an apartment, perhaps in between renters.
I don't want to burst your bubble or enthusiasm but being brutally honest, the housing market here is nothing like the USA. With vacancy rates of less than 1% and competition for flats of 100 or more the norm, finding a short term rental that matches your dates, you would indeed need to be very very very lucky.

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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Hi everyone,

Thank you so much for the honest feedback! Some of it is painful to hear but better now than later. I appreciate how it may not seem to make much sense to take the extended trip/sabbatical but for us it is a real opportunity to expose our kids to other cultures, something which is really lacking where we live in Indiana (not as exotic as it sounds, I assure you!). With two working parents and kids in school the logistics preclude a traditional (i.e. longer) sabbatical. We are not that concerned about the kids' school year being disrupted because they are both excelling at their grades, and we see this trip as offering the portion of education that their schools here cannot offer (e.g. no language instruction here until high school, etc.). But I agree that given the constraints several of you highlight regarding housing and schooling, this will need to be carefully thought through and executed... I'm looking into the bilingual school in Lausanne, which might work if the cost is not too bad. Housing, well, that sounds really tough.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Just one more comment, if you are now considering private or bilingual schools keep in mind the enrollment period is generally Feb.-Mar. for the school year starting in Sept. Many of the more popular schools will be full or having waiting lists. You would have to see if there is space and if they would also accept children in mid-term for only 5 months.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Thank you! I will check on the enrollment period and availability. I appreciate all of your helpful feedback.
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Hoosier Dad, I'm going to be brutally honest and I can get away with it because I am also American and I don't have to be globally correct.


First of all, has EPFL guaranteed you that they will apply for family reunification permits for your spouse and kids for only 5 months? You need to double check this.



Second, have you checked that ANY private schools will enroll your kids for only 5 months? Bilangue included? (When you mentioned bilingual schools above, I guess you are talking about Champittet, yes? Be aware that Champittet is also about 35k per year and in reality it is about 70% french and 30% english.)


My hunch is that you will be sending your kids to their local school.

It takes 8 and 11 year old kids at least 6 months to learn enough French to even start speaking back to other kids with simple, simple phrases. In the five months that you are here, with two tweens in the local schools, I can guarantee you that they will be frustrated and upset a vast majority of the time. The first six months for any ex-pat's kids are always the worst, even for kids in anglophone schools.



I think you are very much overestimating how much french an 8 and 11 year old will pick up in 5 months. Especially if they have two parents at home who only speak english and if they are still watching all of their shows on Apple TV and youtube in english and texting their friends back home in english.


If you really want them to become anywhere near fluent in that short amount of time, they would have to completely immerse themselves in french. That means they can't come home after school and switch back to english.


Third, I personally think you are crazy to make your kids repeat a school year just so they can live in Switzerland for five months. There's no way an American school is going to let them miss half of the year and still promote them. Unless your spouse is going to home school, which would defeat your entire purpose of bringing them here, you need to prepare them for the fact that they are going to be in the same grade WITHOUT THEIR FRIENDS next year.



Don't get me wrong, Switzerland is great, but fondue and skiing is not worth uprooting your family and watching your kids cry every night. Can't they just come and visit you on spring break?
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Re: New in Lausanne - EPFL

Wait, there's fondue and skiing in Switzerland??? I thought it was just Rolex watches and Roger Federer, my idol

Thanks for all of the feedback regarding the schooling. It's helpful to hear different options, I like the homeschool idea as a short-term alternative, although not sure the person who would be doing the homeschooling will find it as attractive....

The kids won't have to repeat the year, and it's actually a good time for the break from their school, as they both switch to new schools next fall. But it is helpful to be reminded of how hard it is to learn a language. I have just been assuming blindly that because they're young they will pick it up quickly, but in reality they are not so young anymore. Not sure how that happened. I've been thinking about EBSR as a possible school, is that a good one?
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...First of all, has EPFL guaranteed you that they will apply for family reunification permits for your spouse and kids for only 5 months? You need to double check this...
I can't answer any questions about schooling, but I agree with this 100%.

Normally, non-EU citizens here on short-term contracts receive "L" permits. Such permits don't guarantee that a person is allowed to bring family members along. Best to verify your permit situation before you spend too much time worrying about schooling and housing.
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