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I'm Gabrielle, living in Austin, and visiting Switzerland again in June. My dear opinionated (very Swiss) mother has refused to visit the States since her departure in 1979.
I love many things about Austin, but miss the green, the mountains, Swiss reliability and punctuality, old buildings, and good public transport.
What I love about Austin is my huge garden, my house, my acupuncture clients, my herbal pharmacy, and great margaritas.
I'm trying to convince my husband, who speaks only English, that it would be a great idea to move over to Switzerland. (I have dual citizenship). I told him it looked like there were interesting expats in Switzerland, and fun things to do.
We like hiking, bike-riding, bands like the Smashing Pumpkins and Radio head, (we are older, though) wine-tastings, and the New York Times.
And we love our dog Ellie, who is part pit bull. Looks like Zurich is out for us.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone,

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I moved here after 8 years in the D/FW area. I regret the decision about 90% of the time. My wife and kids regret it even more.
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Why do you'all regret it?
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I came from El Paso Texas 9 yrs ago. I have little to no regrets. The only a few things I miss (family, friends, mexican food, the music scene in the U.S.). There are more positives to living here in good ole' Switzerland!
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I moved here two months ago wife my wife who is from the States, I am from the UK. We only speak English,(well I do, she speaks some strange dialect.) but we are taking German lessons.
I have enjoyed living in Zug and have no regrets at all. Even my two dogs are happy...apparently.
Jump in and make the move. See ya when u get here
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Why do you'all regret it?
We miss the life we had ... a lot. Our church, our house, our friends. Freedom, wide open spaces, 24/7/365 cheap life.

(the mountains here are pretty to look at, though, I'll admit that)

If I post any more, the Swiss fanboys will get on my case. (tinfoil hat on)
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What could be more important than family, friends, food and music? Or open spaces, wild, rugged and varied landscape, a sense of freedom... I wont go on!
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Hello fellow Austinites! It's so refreshing to know there are others out there
I just moved to Switzerland in February to be with my husband (who is Swiss). We live in Luzern and I commute to and from Zürich everyday for work. Yes, it's quite a task!
If you love to hike and bike, visit the mountains, ski/snowboard, etc., I think you and your husband will find happiness here. However, if you're into the ATX scene i.e. great live music, great food (namely Mexican!), reasonably priced shopping, and friendly, open minded, laid back people -- this is probably not the place to be..... at least from what I can tell from having been here for only a few months.
Then again, there are things to love about this country. I just find they are pale in comparison to everything Austin has to offer.
Ohhhhh....what I would give for some good chips and salsa right now, followed by silver rita on the rocks (with salt!) -- and maybe throw in a jalapeno stuffed olive or two
Cheers and good luck!
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What could be more important than family, friends, food and music? Or open spaces, wild, rugged and varied landscape, a sense of freedom... I wont go on!
Well, Dallas does not have wild, rugged spaces...
Neither does Austin, although the Greenbelt is very cool when it's not 100 degrees outside.
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I moved here two months ago wife my wife who is from the States, I am from the UK. We only speak English,(well I do, she speaks some strange dialect.) but we are taking German lessons.
I have enjoyed living in Zug and have no regrets at all. Even my two dogs are happy...apparently.
Jump in and make the move. See ya when u get here
Thanks for the welcome. Zug looks beautiful
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If I move over there maybe we can all meet up for a Tex-Mex food party and cheer up poor ole' Tomcat. We can play Stevie Ray Vaughn, drink beer, and eat guacamole.

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I came from El Paso Texas 9 yrs ago. I have little to no regrets. The only a few things I miss (family, friends, mexican food, the music scene in the U.S.). There are more positives to living here in good ole' Switzerland!
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If I move over there maybe we can all meet up for a Tex-Mex food party and cheer up poor ole' Tomcat. We can play Stevie Ray Vaughn, drink beer, and eat guacamole.
Sounds good! Keep us informed here! Ciao, Stacey
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And we love our dog Ellie, who is part pit bull. Looks like Zurich is out for us.
Your dog would also be banned in VS and FR; a ban in GE has been approved by voters. Your dog would also face restrictions or require special permits in BS, BL, TG, SO, TI and VD. Further, cantons SG, SH, AG and JU are contemplating some form of BSL - what will come of that is anybody's guess.

Just make sure you understand what you are getting into before you make the move.

Best of luck to you, your family, and your pooch.
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I moved to Austin from Switzerland more than 18 years ago and yes there are things I miss. The cleanliness, actual concerns for the environment, a political discourse that actually takes place (I personally think you - as a citizen - have more freedom in Switzerland).
But I enjoy the Austin music scene, the warm climate (my RA does not flare up very often).
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
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What I love about Austin is my huge garden, my house, my acupuncture clients, my herbal pharmacy, and great margaritas.
And you really want to trade that in for a small apartment in a dark, cold, and rainy place, potential unemployment, huge bureaucratic barriers towards practicing your job, and Swiss beer?? hhmmm.... think twice.
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I moved here from Australia in October last year. My husband relocated from Germany. When we got here originally, we didn't really have an end date in mind, before we'd move on to the next place. Having been here for a few months, we now know we'll be here for three- five years.

There are lots of positive things about living in Switzerland. Its utterly beautiful. If you're in anyway into physical activity- hiking, biking, skiing, this is paradise. Its very safe. It's a really convenient doorway through which you can explore the rest of Europe.

But that said, once you've gotten past how expensive everything is over here- there's really not that balance (for me and my husband, atleast) between rest and relaxation. People are always... business like. You refer to your next door neighbour as Frau X and Herr Y. Making friends in the community (outside expats) is really quite hard. I know for a fact that both my husband and I feel... more flat, depressed, bored... whatever, here than we did when we weren't living here. We've both become more insular people since we moved here.

That said, we're doing our best to enjoy our experiences here, while we have them.
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And you really want to trade that in for a small apartment in a dark, cold, and rainy place, potential unemployment, huge bureaucratic barriers towards practicing your job, and Swiss beer?? hhmmm.... think twice.
As a Swiss citizen, I can take a lot of crap. I don't mind your comments about the weather (which is very different in different parts of Switzerland), bureaucracy (like there's none of that in the US - have you ever applied for a visa or tried to cross the border without a US passport or applied for a driver's license or a social security number???). But the beer???? Come on! I agree that Britain and Ireland have some close to perfect brews. But the US? Anything I've ever tasted from there tasted like semi-cold dishwater. But if you're really into that - go buy yourself some Budwiser, Sam Adam's etc. in Coop.

I have lived in the States for quite a while. I loved it there. But is it really a better place to live when it comes to some of the most basic values like equal rights, health care (or the availability of it), social security, rate of unemployment, unemployment benefits, pension plans, criminal law, road safety etc.? I don't think so.


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As a Swiss citizen, I can take a lot of crap. I don't mind your comments about the weather (which is very different in different parts of Switzerland), bureaucracy (like there's none of that in the US - have you ever applied for a visa or tried to cross the border without a US passport or applied for a driver's license or a social security number???). But the beer???? Come on! I agree that Britain and Ireland have some close to perfect brews. But the US? Anything I've ever tasted from there tasted like semi-cold dishwater. But if you're really into that - go buy yourself some Budwiser, Sam Adam's etc. in Coop.

I have lived in the States for quite a while. I loved it there. But is it really a better place to live when it comes to some of the most basic values like equal rights, health care (or the availability of it), social security, rate of unemployment, unemployment benefits, pension plans, criminal law, road safety etc.? I don't think so.


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My response was specific to the OP's post - it seems she runs an acupuncture practice with a herbal pharmacy. I'm pretty sure you need to be an Eidgenössisch Diplomierter Whatever to be allowed doing this in CH - therefore the bureaucratic barriers. This comment is not specific to CH, I think it would apply to most European countries.

Agree - Swiss beer is better than American on average, but you won't find a place that serves you Texas-style margaritas in huge pitchers...
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My response was specific to the OP's post - it seems she runs an acupuncture practice with a herbal pharmacy. I'm pretty sure you need to be an Eidgenössisch Diplomierter Whatever to be allowed doing this in CH - therefore the bureaucratic barriers. This comment is not specific to CH, I think it would apply to most European countries.

Agree - Swiss beer is better than American on average, but you won't find a place that serves you Texas-style margaritas in huge pitchers...
Sorry, I thought your post was meant in a more general way. I agree - the acupuncture part would probably require some degree of certification, at least if you want your clients' health insurance to pay for the sessions. Selling herbs shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't sell anything that's regulated :-) However, you might run into some stiff competition by the general drug stores that typically also sell herbs here.

Texas-style margaritas would definitely be a problem. You can get a "Stiefel" in many restaurants (which is essentially a 1 or 1.5l glass of beer) - but that's just beer.

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Hi Gabrielle, welcome to EF!

Desperado restaurants serve margarita beverages by the pitcher but self-made ones are the best.
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