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Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Looking for a steel string acoustic guitar.

Taylor 114 would be ideal, but I'm open to other offers.
Will also consider Taylor 114e or Taylor 114ce but don't really need pickup and/or cutway.

Or similar guitars from Martin, Breedlove, Seagull, Yamaha....

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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Does it have to be a Taylor or a grand auditorium sized guitar?
The saying goes "try before you buy" every tree and every piece of wood is different and so is every guitar even the same model of the same year. Except for Taylors, they all have the same artificially sounding lush brightness to them. They are like the Starbucks of the guitar world. Not saying they are bad guitars, just not my cup of coffee. I would go to Gitarren Total in Zurich and try a few out and find one that sings to you. Ask for Duncan, great guy, English fellow. They have Taylors, Martins, Gibsons, Furch, and a few others including a few from a $wi$$ luthier. That guy makes Martins look cheap, in price. Good luck with your hunt.
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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Alas, the only acoustic I have that is close to what you want (Yamaha FGX730SCA) is the only one I don't want to sell (the Fender Catalina, yes, also a classical).

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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

I bought a 1971 Aria (dred, made in Japan) as my beater/campfire guitar but once I brought it home and changed strings I realized it was far too good to be a beater. After doing some research I found Aria was the only good factory (besides yamaha) during that time. I might sell it for CHF 500, but I might not sell it either. Its a beauty and Japanese guitars from the 70's are starting to go up in price as they are the last of the affordable vintage guitars, thanks in part to the aweful quality of Martins and Gibsons who overbuilt their guitars at the loss of tone and responsivness.
Gibson didnt recover until the late 90's when they hired Ren Fergeson.
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Does it have to be a Taylor or a grand auditorium sized guitar?
The saying goes "try before you buy" every tree and every piece of wood is different and so is every guitar even the same model of the same year. Except for Taylors, they all have the same artificially sounding lush brightness to them. They are like the Starbucks of the guitar world. Not saying they are bad guitars, just not my cup of coffee. I would go to Gitarren Total in Zurich and try a few out and find one that sings to you. Ask for Duncan, great guy, English fellow. They have Taylors, Martins, Gibsons, Furch, and a few others including a few from a $wi$$ luthier. That guy makes Martins look cheap, in price. Good luck with your hunt.
It doesn't have to be a Taylor. Regarding the body shape I'd prefer Grand Auditorium or similar. Not really looking for a strumming guitar (dreadnought).

Those Taylor models are more like an exemple. As I said, I'm open for other brands. Sure every guitar is diferent and I would need to try the guitar before buying, unless it's a really good deal.
I'm not new into guitars. Been playing for about 20years (well, not much in the past 6/7 years ). At the moment I own Gibson LP Classic PP, Fender Jazzmaster American Vintage "Thin Skin", Tokai LSS120... All of them were chosen after trying a few guitars. I could not agree more with everything you said...
My problem is that at the moment I don't have time to spend looking for a guitar. Living in St Moritz doesn't make it easier. That's why I'm looking for a budget guitar. Otherwise I'd be looking for something more premium.

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Alas, the only acoustic I have that is close to what you want (Yamaha FGX730SCA) is the only one I don't want to sell (the Fender Catalina, yes, also a classical).

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I'd consider the Yamaha, not the Catalina though.
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EDIT: Just to add that if I was looking to spend some good money I'd probably be ordering the guitar from a friend of mine that's one of the best luthiers in Portugal atm.
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It doesn't have to be a Taylor. Regarding the body shape I'd prefer Grand Auditorium or similar. Not really looking for a strumming guitar (dreadnought).

Those Taylor models are more like an exemple. As I said, I'm open for other brands. Sure every guitar is diferent and I would need to try the guitar before buying, unless it's a really good deal.
I'm not new into guitars. Been playing for about 20years (well, not much in the past 6/7 years ). At the moment I own Gibson LP Classic PP, Fender Jazzmaster American Vintage "Thin Skin", Tokai LSS120... All of them were chosen after trying a few guitars. I could not agree more with everything you said...
My problem is that at the moment I don't have time to spend looking for a guitar. Living in St Moritz doesn't make it easier. That's why I'm looking for a budget guitar. Otherwise I'd be looking for something more premium.



I'd consider the Yamaha, not the Catalina though.
Thanks anyway

Ibanez (surprise, surprise) has been killing the under $1000 market. Yes, Ibanez. In fact I will be driving to Germany in the next few weeks (Thomann) to try out a few "Artwood Vintage" guitars. Check out houseofsound.ch or Thomann.de. They have a good 30 days, no questions asked return policy in case they send you a dud. But I hate ordering guitars online which is why I am willing to make the drive. For a Ibanez parlor. That was the loudest and lightest guitar I have ever played and it had blusey mojo for days. I would have bought it but I was looking for a Gibson J-45 which I have now. But that parlor was louder than every dred I have ever owned, even louder than the J-45. Ibanez is worth a try, they compete with guitars that cost 4X more.
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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Not really a surprise. I'm glad you talked about Ibanez. I was forgetting about them. 3 or 4 years ago I was looking for about the same I'm looking now, and I remember Ibanez having some good guitars on a budget.

I've been looking at Thomann. It's a benchmark in the european market. But I'm really busy to drive that far for a budget guitar

Something that I was not aware is that there are a lot of guitars that it's not possible to import to Switzerland because of CITES. I was about to pull the trigger on a Taylor 114 (yes, I know ) but Thomann won't send it to Switzerland. They'd send the 114e and 114ce though

EDIT: Not particularly looking for a loud guitar. I'm just playing at home...
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Not really a surprise. I'm glad you talked about Ibanez. I was forgetting about them. 3 or 4 years ago I was looking for about the same I'm looking now, and I remember Ibanez having some good guitars on a budget.

I've been looking at Thomann. It's a benchmark in the european market. But I'm really busy to drive that far for a budget guitar

Something that I was not aware is that there are a lot of guitars that it's not possible to import to Switzerland because of CITES. I was about to pull the trigger on a Taylor 114 (yes, I know ) but Thomann won't send it to Switzerland. They'd send the 114e and 114ce though

EDIT: Not particularly looking for a loud guitar. I'm just playing at home...
It was loud in a good way. Very responsive, light finger picking gave it a good tone instead of a whisper. Not super jumbo loud. I going to check out some amps too, or else I wouldn't drive that far either but two birds in one store. The good thing is we are currently in the second golden age of acoustic guitars, first being the 1930's. Its almost hard to find a bad guitar, even the buget guitars from China are beating top end guitars from the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Another good buget guitar would be Recording Kings or The Loar (after Lloyd Loar). Right now I see an Ibanez AVN10 or The Loar LH-200 (both solid top, laminate back and sides) in my near future. I dont want a solid wood guitar beacuse this is supposed to be my beater to play around summer campfires in Ticino. So it has to handle temp and humidity swings without me freaking out and rushing it back into its case.
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I'd consider the Yamaha, not the Catalina though.
Thanks anyway
What I figured.

I also have a '61 Standard, '59 Junior, and a '64 Jag, also not for sale.

The '80 Schecter Tele, maybe, the '80 Schecter Strat, no-way.

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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

The Loar-LH200 I love this song but there are better videos that showcase said guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslWahN6Xok

And Ibanez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwyeYV1Yjs
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The Loar-LH200 I love this song but there are better videos that showcase said guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslWahN6Xok

And Ibanez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwyeYV1Yjs
They sound great. Just not sure it's the kind of sound I'm looking for. Would be great as an addition to other guitars. Looking like a great blues guitar. For that I'd take an electric strat.
I'm looking for something a little bit more modern sounding (not sterile sounding though)...

Oh, and something that Thomann is able to send to Switzerland would be nice. A lot of acoustic guitars that they won't send here....

But I'm still open for offers from forum members. Acoustic guitars generally sound the best after a few years being played. So I don't have problems with a second hand guitar as long as it is in good shape.
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What I figured.

I also have a '61 Standard, '59 Junior, and a '64 Jag, also not for sale.

The '80 Schecter Tele, maybe, the '80 Schecter Strat, no-way.

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They sound great. Just not sure it's the kind of sound I'm looking for. Would be great as an addition to other guitars. Looking like a great blues guitar. For that I'd take an electric strat.
I'm looking for something a little bit more modern sounding (not sterile sounding though)...

Oh, and something that Thomann is able to send to Switzerland would be nice. A lot of acoustic guitars that they won't send here....

But I'm still open for offers from forum members. Acoustic guitars generally sound the best after a few years being played. So I don't have problems with a second hand guitar as long as it is in good shape.
How about a '71 Aria model 6710? CHF 500 and she's yours. Or check out some Yammys or Recording Kings from House of sound.ch. Yeah the SITES thing is a PITA but I fully agree with it. We should stop cutting down endagered trees but going after guitars is a drop in the bucket compared to the Chinese furniture market. After watching that Ibanez video again I realized I really need an all hog guitar. I love that guys facial expressions as he plays it for the first time. Both pleasantly surprised and thoroughly impressed.
Also check out the grand concert or auditoriums from Ibanez as well. A bit more balanced and modern sounding.
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How about a '71 Aria model 6710? CHF 500 and she's yours. Or check out some Yammys or Recording Kings from House of sound.ch. Yeah the SITES thing is a PITA but I fully agree with it. We should stop cutting down endagered trees but going after guitars is a drop in the bucket compared to the Chinese furniture market. After watching that Ibanez video again I realized I really need an all hog guitar. I love that guys facial expressions as he plays it for the first time. Both pleasantly surprised and thoroughly impressed.
Also check out the grand concert or auditoriums from Ibanez as well. A bit more balanced and modern sounding.
Not really looking for a dreadnought, but thanks for the offer anyway.

And thanks for the houseofsound.ch tip. I didn't know about it. Limited on the number of brand choices, but they have nice prices. Even slightly better than Thomann, and being in Switzerland I won't have to deal with taxes, custom duties, custom clearance, etc...
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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Any opinion on the Martin X-Series? I'm aware of the "green inovative connstruction technics". The high-pressure laminate back and sides, "sanwich" neck, the Richlite fingerboard and bridge...

I like what I hear on youtube though. Have you tried any of this guitars California Dream? How do they sound live? How do they play?

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Re: Acoustic Guitar - Taylor 114 or similar

Ok, not looking for a guitar anymore.

Ordered today a SIGMA SOMR-28H from HouseofSound.ch. Thanks for the tip on the store California Dreamer
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Still looking for a guitar. The guitar I ordered is out of stock for a couple months
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Still looking for a guitar. The guitar I ordered is out of stock for a couple months
I have a Taylor Baby Mahogany steel string guitar with built in pickup and tuner, bought last year in CH for 600 CHF. In mint condition, willing to sell it to you for 400 CHF.
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I have a Taylor Baby Mahogany steel string guitar with built in pickup and tuner, bought last year in CH for 600 CHF. In mint condition, willing to sell it to you for 400 CHF.
Thanks. Looking for a full size guitar.

What's with all these people trying to sell 2nd hand guitars for new prices (or even higher)?
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I take insult at you accusation!

I am not selling it as new or higher, please find the attached receipt for what I paid. Did you look up the price without pickup and tuner? Welcome to Switzerland buddy, prices are higher here. There's no reason why I should take a hit since I bought in CH and you want to pay bargain bin prices. Jeez, I was being nice to offer it to you as I could have sold it locally far easier.
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