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last time I read a masters thesis for someone it was business/marketing, and we did two rounds of editing and feedback. About 5000 words and I charged the student a very minimal 300chf.


If it's arts, humanities, economics, community development, marketing or business, I can read it for you. Send me a PM.
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Thanks you for your immediate replies which I was for sure not expecting. I was instructed by the tutor to get my thesis proofread so I hope this doesn't count as cheating. It should be purely grammar proofreading. My thesis topic is about Breastfeeding and Child Morbidity. I would really appreciate it if someone can help out.
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Thanks you for your immediate replies which I was for sure not expecting. I was instructed by the tutor to get my thesis proofread so I hope this doesn't count as cheating. It should be purely grammar proofreading. My thesis topic is about Breastfeeding and Child Morbidity. I would really appreciate it if someone can help out.
It is a great topic. Good luck defending and let us know.

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This thread is a good example of how when someone relatively new posts a thread here, they are often needlessly attacked and criticized.

Yoyo... Good luck with your thesis. x
Thanks. This makes my eyes wet.

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Proofreading a thesis and correcting someone's grammar also inevitably involves re-writing and re-structuring things, especially if the persons level of English is not very good to start with. You are asking random strangers to spend literally hours of their time, for free, to help you write a thesis that you should be doing by yourself.

Not only is it an unreasonable request, but you didn't even say 'please' once in your post.
What you mentioned is very true. I totally agree. A "please" is a minimal.

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Old 23.10.2020, 09:55
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Thanks for taking time correcting my grammar and offering your opinion. I appreciate your opinion. however I have seen plenty "best" going around not just from me.
Me too. Don't worry, in real life most people would understand you're not a native speaker and would cut you some slack. In fact, they'd appreciate your language skills considering your mother tongues is totally different. You're doing fine.

I hope you'll find someone to help you out with your thesis. If this forum doesn't work for you, maybe you can try to find an expat group on FB or other platforms.

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Me too. Don't worry, in real life most people would understand you're not a native speaker and would cut you some slack. In fact, they'd appreciate your language skills considering your mother tongues is totally different. You're doing fine.

I hope you'll find someone to help you out with your thesis. If this forum doesn't work for you, maybe you can try to find an expat group on FB or other platforms.

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Your understanding and advices are well appreciated. Have a good day.
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This thread is a good example of how when someone relatively new posts a thread here, they are often needlessly attacked and criticized.

You've got to be kidding. This thread is completely tame compared to many.
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What you mentioned is very true. I totally agree. A "please" is a minimal.

I don't think a "please" is at all necessary. You already make an offer of your appreciation in the form of a meal. Often posts from some other nationalities come across as demanding but yours doesn't at all.
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It is a great topic. Good luck defending and let us know.

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Thanks for taking time correcting my grammar and offering your opinion. I appreciate your opinion. however I have seen plenty "best" going around not just from me.

I see plenty of "advices" "more then" etc but it doesn't make them right.


"All the best" to a friend is ok but not in this context. Like "alles gute". I don't think the Germans sign off emails with "gute", do they??
Neither do English sign off with abbreviations such as wbr or br or kr.
"Kind regards" is acceptable but you'd never see just "kind".


This I guess demonstrates one of the other problems of proofreading - the client being unwilling to believe you then your proofreading name is attached to a document which is sub-standard.
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I see plenty of "advices" "more then" etc but it doesn't make them right.


"All the best" to a friend is ok but not in this context. Like "alles gute". I don't think the Germans sign off emails with "gute", do they??
Neither do English sign off with abbreviations such as wbr or br or kr.
"Kind regards" is acceptable but you'd never see just "kind".


This I guess demonstrates one of the other problems of proofreading - the client being unwilling to believe you then your proofreading name is attached to a document which is sub-standard.

I'm still in touch with a few of my old professors from uni, and one of them always signs her emails with "Best, "

Did it every occur to you that perhaps your opinion is subjective and that the way Yoyo signs off on her posts in an online forum is irrelevant?
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I see plenty of "advices" "more then" etc but it doesn't make them right.


"All the best" to a friend is ok but not in this context. Like "alles gute". I don't think the Germans sign off emails with "gute", do they??
Neither do English sign off with abbreviations such as wbr or br or kr.
"Kind regards" is acceptable but you'd never see just "kind".


This I guess demonstrates one of the other problems of proofreading - the client being unwilling to believe you then your proofreading name is attached to a document which is sub-standard.
I like the lessons you give. Could be that the OP got 'Best' from another non Anglophone, maybe from her prof...who knows. I've seen 'Best' in emails, always thought it intentionally impersonal, as most stuff in academia. Usually profs or admins would sign off with that.

Even if substandard, there is so little done on nursing (I am a pro). So I like OP's effort. Hopefully OP will find a kind soul. Lactation advice is most times free, even when it actually is pretty sophisticated and quite painful science.

You could dissect my jibberish, I am sure, but I'll take it from you. I appreciate your details.
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I don't think a "please" is at all necessary. You already make an offer of your appreciation in the form of a meal. Often posts from some other nationalities come across as demanding but yours doesn't at all.
It is very nice of you to share your thoughts that non-English nationalities often demand too much in this forum. And although I feel flattered to have your recognition of not being demanding. I am still a non-native English speaker, so I assume my request here is very demanding and would like to kindly demand your big heart to be tolerant of my mistakes and demands.
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You could dissect my jibberish, I am sure, but I'll take it from you. I appreciate your details.
No dissection required. I read "Best" as impersonal almost to the point of being offensive although when I speak to people(non-native English speakers) about it they say that's not intentional.

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It is very nice of you to share your thoughts that non-English nationalities often demand too much in this forum. And although I feel flattered to have your recognition of not being demanding. I am still a non-native English speaker, so I assume my request here is very demanding and would like to kindly demand your big heart to be tolerant of my mistakes and demands.
Sorry, no you've misunderstood, although that's par for the course on this forum. There's a certain nationality for whom their kind requests come across as hard demands. I said there was nothing impolite about your post and even that a "please" was not needed, actually I would say it would be out of place in this context.

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Did it every occur to you that perhaps your opinion is subjective and that the way Yoyo signs off on her posts in an online forum is irrelevant?
I can't help your lack of comprehension.

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No dissection required. I read "Best" as impersonal almost to the point of being offensive although when I speak to people(non-native English speakers) about it they say that's not intentional.
I think you nailed it.

It kind of makes me think if in a 4 language territory this offensiveness is actually expected/natural. My friends here perpetually make fun of either being too stiff or too informal, anytime we try to switch to another national language.

When I was working at US unies, everything seemed much more...chummy. Europe is more formal. Though the academia here is so multilingual, nobody gets offended.

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Sorry, no you've misunderstood, although that's par for the course on this forum. There's a certain nationality for whom their kind requests come across as hard demands. I said there was nothing impolite about your post and even that a "please" was not needed, actually I would say it would be out of place in this context.
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I can't help your lack of comprehension.
Out of interest, are you a native English speaker?
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Out of interest, are you a native English speaker?
Out of curiosity, how does it sound to you? I personally tend to give anyone the benefit of a doubt, considering it's an online forum and people don't really think that every word written here will be dissected and split in "n" pieces.

Of course, obviously I'm not a native speaker and my standards could be very different.
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yoyocuter- fascinating topic, and I wish I could help- but sadly too far and difficult re Covid. Good luck.
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No dissection required. I read "Best" as impersonal almost to the point of being offensive although when I speak to people(non-native English speakers) about it they say that's not intentional.
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I can't help your lack of comprehension.
My "lack of comprehension?" Please do explain.

You just stated yourself that your interpretation was subjective, which is precisely what I had said to you.

Also, you might want to consider the fact that using the word "Best" to sign off on emails, etc. is considered by many to be perfectly acceptable and recommended. e.g.

57 Ways To Sign Off On An Email
https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanad.../#72e4ac3525d0

"Best – This is the most ubiquitous; it’s totally safe. I recommend it highly and so do the experts."


So again, please tell me what exactly I am lacking with my comprehension?

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My "lack of comprehension?" Please do explain.

You just stated yourself that your interpretation was subjective, which is precisely what I had said to you.

Also, you might want to consider the fact that using the word "Best" to sign off on emails, etc. is considered by many to be perfectly acceptable and recommended. e.g.

57 Ways To Sign Off On An Email
https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanad.../#72e4ac3525d0

"Best – This is the most ubiquitous; it’s totally safe. I recommend it highly and so do the experts."


So again, please tell me what exactly I am lacking with my comprehension?
The fact that Landers pointed out that OP hasn't written us an email.
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