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Old 27.02.2015, 21:17
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Re: Magic Dress

I rest my case, that is one ugly dress.

(Not the bride, her dress is lovely)
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Old 27.02.2015, 21:29
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Re: Magic Dress

First I saw it white & gold(the lace part) and while reading the article it didnt make any sense that the dress is more like royal blue and black(lace) , ... i was reading else, and then 15min later, I saw the dress as royal blue-black and since it would never go back to white=gold ! I want my life back...

two members of my family see it as white and gold
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Old 27.02.2015, 22:58
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Re: Magic Dress

Why no poll?
Blue and black.
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Old 28.02.2015, 00:53
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Re: Magic Dress

I see white gold! Just asked hubby… he see black and blue… WTF!!!
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Old 28.02.2015, 01:19
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Re: Magic Dress

I am more interested what`s in it
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Old 28.02.2015, 09:03
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Re: Magic Dress

Missed this whole thing yesterday, so initially thought it was just a wind-up.

But you're all wrong - the picture clearly shows blue and gold - how anyone can see it differently I don;t understand, despite the various explanations.
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Old 28.02.2015, 09:15
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Re: Magic Dress

This is white and gold and anyone who says different is the spawn of Satan (please un-friend me on Facebook).

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This is white and gold and anyone who says different is the spawn of Satan (please un-friend me on Facebook).
We were never friends.
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Old 28.02.2015, 12:12
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Re: Magic Dress

Light blue and brown. How can one say white or black? Maybe those people that wear a brown socks to black dress pants and a blue jacket.
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Re: Magic Dress

I understand that some people may mistake the black for very dark gold, because of the reflection, but how the hell can you see the blue part white?
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Old 28.02.2015, 12:51
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Re: Magic Dress

Here some nice color and light perception illusions:

The Checker Board by Edward Adelson. B.
http://web.mit.edu/persci/people/ade..._illusion.html
magic-dress-checkershado.jpg

And the many illusions by R. Beau Lotto
http://www.lottolab.org/articles/illusionsoflight.asp

Notable the Color Cube. Look at the center tile at top and front of the cube.
Same or different color?
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PS: What is your color perception score? Mine is 4 (Monitor/Dispaly used may influence your score).
http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
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I understand that some people may mistake the black for very dark gold, because of the reflection, but how the hell can you see the blue part white?
Because color is very relative and perception is based on surrounding, previous knowledge, and inherent assumptions.
See above post of mine.

Here two nice examples from http://www.inspirebohemia.com/2014/0...-of-ghent.html

magic-dress-dsc_0219_small.jpg
What is the color of the t-shirt?

magic-dress-dsc_0145_small.jpg
What is the color of the car?

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Re: Magic Dress

I understand that and i see the point in your example images, but not in the dress image!
The background of this forum is light blue, the dress is clearly much darker than the background of this forum (in the lower part the blue is on the border so it's even easier to see). How could someone say that is white?

I mean, in the last 2 pictures you posted i'd say the shirt and car are white because i balance with the background, but i'm aware that they're actually a very very light shade of blue (like the background of this forum). The dress is not even a light shade of blue, it's just plain blue!

I still think that the white team is just playing a huge prank on everyone else. That would be brilliant
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Old 28.02.2015, 13:31
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Re: Magic Dress

It is definitely white…. I don't get how people can see blue/black
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I mean, in the last 2 pictures you posted i'd say the shirt and car are white because i balance with the background, but i'm aware that they're actually a very very light shade of blue (like the background of this forum). The dress is not even a light shade of blue, it's just plain blue!
Some close-up patches. From shirt, car, and dress.
Which is which?
magic-dress-patch.jpg
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Light blue and brown. How can one say white or black? Maybe those people that wear a brown socks to black dress pants and a blue jacket.
When you say light blue do you mean royal blue? I can understand someone saying brown since the picture is horrible quality.

Also most people's monitors aren't properly calibrated.
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It is definitely white…. I don't get how people can see blue/black
Then you realise why this has gone viral?
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When you say light blue do you mean royal blue? I can understand someone saying brown since the picture is horrible quality.
Looking at my close-ups I would say the color is washed indigo.
But color naming is another complete different topic for itself.
http://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/
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Old 28.02.2015, 13:55
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Looking at my close-ups I would say the color is washed indigo.
But color naming is another complete different topic for itself.
http://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/
This is academic to be honest. People who seen it as white and gold see clear white and clear gold.
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This is academic to be honest. People who seen it as white and gold see clear white and clear gold.
I do not think they "see" white and gold.


It is the answer to the ill posed question, "What color has this dress?" Because it can mean:

- "What are the actual colors of the actual dress expressed in X,Y,Z"
This one needs the actual dress and a colorimeter

- "What are the actual colors of the actual dress expressed in color names"
This one needs the manufactures description of the dress, or the actual dress a defined lightning and then a bunch of people arguing about color names.

- "What are the raw R,G,B values of the colors in this particular file"
Thats an "easy" one. For a single pixel I exactly say what it is. It gets more complicated if we discuss an area.

- "What are the X,Y,Z values of this photo using the correct color space"
What is the correct color space? sRGB, most likely?

- "What are the X,Y,Z values of this photo after adjusting white point, black point, gamma adjustment, and in the correct color space.
Wait why do we have to do the adjustment, cannot we trust that the measuring device (a.k.a camera phone) did it correct? What is the correct black and white point, what gamma correction must be used. What is the transfer function of the sensor and what gamma correction was used for coding?

-"What are the colors by name you perceive using your display, background, actual surrounding lightning condition when you only look a individual patches but not the actual photo as whole"
Thats an interesting one and will give you different results then the next two ones.

-"What are the colors of the dress by name you perceive using your display, background, your actual surrounding lightning condition"
Thats a good one but look at the next one

-"What do you think what are the actual colors by name of the actual dress depicted in this photo"
Thats where surrounding, previous knowledge, and inherent assumptions comes into play.

Which one is asked, which one is actually answered?
Which one do you think is asked, which one thinks the one who gives an answer is being asked, which on to think was the answer given to?

PS: I most likely missed a few other interpretations.
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