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simply want to learn our local language, so that we can[...] enjoy a beer or two at the neighborhood pub.
Gömmer eis go zieh
let's go drinking/ let's go get a drink/ shall we get some drinks? (either a request or a question, depending on the intonation)
['gœmr aɪs gɔ 'tsiæ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...VxLpK2k#t=106s

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Gömmer eis go zieh
let's go drinking/ let's go get a drink/ shall we get some drinks? (either a request or a question, depending on the intonation)
['gœmr aɪs gɔ 'tsiæ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...VxLpK2k#t=106s

Props to Maryangel24. Check out her YT-channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Maryangel24
she does a very helpful outline of SG verb tenses and sentence structure, as well. I struggle enough with German sentence structures, let alone SG, very difficult when you're old and your only frame of reference is English and Spanish.
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Re: Useful German phrases to say or recognise

A useful phrase I learnt today:

Gruesseuch, ich bin nur am luege, merci! (Luege pronounced Loo-egg-eux, I think rather than Loo-geux)
Hello, I'm just looking, thank you!

Tried it out in some shops today and I got the shopkeep to say "Lu...ege..... okay", and then walk away. So it's field tested for your benefit.


I really hope that's what it means.....
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Luzern
Loots-ern

(I probably still got it wrong...)

Cheers guys!
"Lootzern" is however not the pronounciation of Luzern. Luzern is the name of the town in Standart German, and is prounounced as it is written.

What you have in mind is actually the Swiss German name of the town. Which is not written as Luzern, but rather as Lozärn or Lozern.
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Re: Useful German phrases to say or recognise

ich bin am gaa
i am going

ich bin ganga
i went (also when leaving, as in "I'm out of here")

ich bin niid choena cho
i could not come

ich bin d heim ganga
i went home

ich mues d heim cho
i have to go home

some favorites around the house (I have 3 kids):

duura bi roet
you are crazy (you have passed the red)

hoep d bassa
hurry up

schoena chrampfa
nice work
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It's fine for folk to put their questions, answers, ideas etc. on here. I just wanted to add the other stuff for those who want to try other options.

Writing things 'phonetically' to help the pronunciation is, in itself, quite difficult as it depends a bit on the mother tongue of the person writing it.
It is also extremely difficult to do.

Luzern for example can sound a bit like Loo ts ah (as in cry of pain) n
Anyone coming from Basel pronounces Basel - Baaasel. Aargauers look blank and say, o, you mean Basel?

Have fun. And don't forget, it was not an alien but a Swiss who, in Zürich, asked for a Gûgge (paper bag) for her shopping and was given a chicken. (Giggel)
You mean a" Baaaaasler"
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Sprechen sie Englisch?

What might be better would be the (Swiss-)German equivalent of:

"I understand if you don't speak English, but please forgive my poor German."
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Re: Useful German phrases to say or recognise

This will keep you guys quiet, for a wile http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Verzei...chweizer_Armee

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ich bin niid choena cho
i could not come
Really? Dialect uses sein here and not haben?
I am eager to learn... no problem.

Do dialect speakers here prefer:

A- ich bi niit chönne choo
B - ich ha niit chönne choo

Thank you for your help with this mini-study.'
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Re: Useful German phrases to say or recognise

It's 'ha' because it doesn't 'relate' to 'kommen' but to 'können'

I couldn't come - i ha nit chönne cho
I didn't come - i bi nit cho

and now I should make some lunch so
i bi gange
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Really? Dialect uses sein here and not haben?
I am eager to learn... no problem.

Do dialect speakers here prefer:

A- ich bi niit chönne choo
B - ich ha niit chönne choo

Thank you for your help with this mini-study.'
I still have a particular blind spot for which verbs take "sein" versus "haben".
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I still have a particular blind spot for which verbs take "sein" versus "haben".
It was my way of telling you that it's wrong. I try to be nice to people
It's a double infinitive structure, it has to be haben.

SEIN:
- the verb mean that you are actually changing place or state (bin gegangen, sind aufs andere Ufer geschwommen, ist gefroren...)
- the verb sein and bleiben (no explaination for it, in Northergermany, we say bin angefangen/begonnen but that's officially wrong in high German even if google gives many example of this)

HABEN:
- the verb is transitive (has a direct object, even if it is a verb of movement: habe den Weg begangen)
- the verb is an action as such with no complement of direction (er hat drei Stunden geschwommen)
- double infinitiv structure because the verb in perfect is actually the modal verb, and they take haben.
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It was my way of telling you that it's wrong. I try to be nice to people
It's a double infinitive structure, it has to be haben.

SEIN:
- the verb mean that you are actually changing place or state (bin gegangen, sind aufs andere Ufer geschwommen, ist gefroren...)
- the verb sein and bleiben (no explaination for it, in Northergermany, we say bin angefangen/begonnen but that's officially wrong in high German even if google gives many example of this)

HABEN:
- the verb is transitive (has a direct object, even if it is a verb of movement: habe den Weg begangen)
- the verb is an action as such with no complement of direction (er hat drei Stunden geschwommen)
- double infinitiv structure because the verb in perfect is actually the modal verb, and they take haben.
learning a new language is always a very humbling way to remind yourself just how little of your own native language you actually know.
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What might be better would be the (Swiss-)German equivalent of:

"I understand if you don't speak English, but please forgive my poor German."
the good news is that folks figure it out almost immediately.



I was taught a new word - lösä (to listen). apparently my gringo roots make clear enunciation of the difference between "hoere" and "huura" nearly impossible, so this was suggested as a staging ground for my language integration.

lösä it is for me for now.
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the good news is that folks figure it out almost immediately.



I was taught a new word - lösä (to listen). apparently my gringo roots make clear enunciation of the difference between "hoere" and "huura" nearly impossible, so this was suggested as a staging ground for my language integration.

lösä it is for me for now.
I once had to ask for our company password at the library and some wiseass had used Huura. The librarian announced it to me very loudly and then blushed and started laughing. I busily wrote down hoere, and thought jeez what the hell is wrong with her?
Needless to say I fgured it out when I had to go back and ask her to spell it, which she did, very loudly and clearly
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lösä (to listen).
"löse" actually means to loosen. To listen is "lose".
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What might be better would be the (Swiss-)German equivalent of:

"I understand if you don't speak English, but please forgive my poor German."
Ich bin Uusländer verstah nurd
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Re: Useful German phrases to say or recognise

Ich verstehe nicht. I dont understand.
Leider spreche lich nicht Deutsch. I dont speak German!
Können Sie Englisch sprechen? Can u speak English?
Ich schätze es sehr! I appreciate it very much!
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It occured to me that English-speakers who come to the German-speaking part of Switzerland would ease their transition by not only using some key standard German phrases (to let the natives know you're at least trying to learn their language), but also some Swiss-German as well. Aside from "Gruezi" and "Merci veilmal" I know nothing.

I realize this isn't going to affect me, but it might be useful for others. I also realize that since dialect varies from canton to canton, the same phrase may be said much differently in one part of Switzerland than another even though technically they speak the same language. Does anybody here have any suggestions?
I always encourage foreigners here to concentrate on Standard German and gradually pick up the local Swiss-German dialect. What I however support is them using the terms in actual use also in Standard German here like Trottoir (not Gehsteig), Velo (not Fahrrad), Auto (not Kraftwagen), Perron (not Fahrsteig), Billet [spoken as 'billlleett' not as biye as in French] (instead of Fahrkarte), Helikopter (not Hubschrauber), parkieren (not parken), Parterre (not Erdgeschoss) ... etc .
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you can say "ja" to "sind sie bedient" if you are pissed. The question at the supermarket was most likely "werden sie bedient?".
NO, they most likely WERE asked "sind Si bedient ? " The question most likely was NOT "wärded Si ..."
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