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I look forward to meeting you 51 85.00%
I look forward to meet you 1 1.67%
I am looking forward to meeting you 32 53.33%
I am looking forward to meet you 1 1.67%
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Old 24.06.2011, 10:24
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

1 and 3 are both correct. 1 is usually used in more formal circumstances and 3 in a less formal way.

Generally speaking if the look forward to is followed by a noun we would use the ing form.

eg. I am looking forward to your visit rather than I look forward to your visit.


If you want to complicate things even more you could also say I was looking forward to.

For example : I was looking forward to meeting you but unfortunately I am unable to attend the meeting due to unforseen circumstances.
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Old 24.06.2011, 10:25
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

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Aside from the accent, it's getting much harder to tell the difference anymore. I am frequently scandalised when reading stories on the BBC as their proofreading has really become sloppy, too. No longer is the UK quite so much more superior than the colonies when it comes to the language.

Besides, it's not our fault Webster had to go and screw up the spellings, etc. just to differentiate it from the Queen's English. Thankfully, English is one of the most forgiving languages due to its lax rules.
It all went to pot when "gob-smacked" got accepted as a proper (hyphenated**) word and included in OED. I was flabbergasted, that people couldn't come up with alternative forms of expression.

Downhill from then on.

** my spell checker didn't like it as one word and offered up the hyphenated option - can't be bovvered to check.
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It all went to pot when "gob-smacked" got accepted as a proper (hyphenated**) word and included in OED.
The OED merely records words which are used, as they are used.

I'd be unhappy if the OED didn't include 'gob-smacked'.
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Old 24.06.2011, 10:43
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

Gobsmacked is in my COED with no hyphen.

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To complicate things further, I've also used "I'll look forward to..." in the past too.
You're confused, or deranged. "I'll look forward" is clearly future tense, not past.

Are you looking forward to the Zürchers vs Baslers curry tomorrow night, by the way? (adrianlondon, your presence is required, too!)

Note to OP: Here, you simply can't say "Do you look forward to the curry?". It just ain't right. Apologies on behalf of the entire anglophone world.
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Old 24.06.2011, 11:23
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Note to OP: Here, you simply can't say "Do you look forward to the curry?". It just ain't right.
That's true if you're talking about a specific curry, but if you're talking about curries in general, it would be fine:

"Do you look forward to the Basel curry nights?"

Grammar is fun!
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Old 24.06.2011, 11:27
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

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The OED merely records words which are used, as they are used.

I'd be unhappy if the OED didn't include 'gob-smacked'.
Not every word, no. I'm acquainted with the editor of the US OED and the battles over some inclusions and/or exclusions are rather prolonged and political affairs. The only thing more pedantic than a linguist is a lexicographer.

That being said, they have begun including many more words, especially words that I would consider slang, e.g. gobsmacked. I would have enjoyed the meeting to decide on that word's inclusion.
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Not every word, no. I'm acquainted with the editor of the US OED and the battles over some inclusions and/or exclusions are rather prolonged and political affairs. The only thing more pedantic than a linguist is a lexicographer.
I didn't suggest that they should include every word. To exclude a word which is as frequently used in both oral discourse and print as 'gobsmacked/gob-smacked', however, would be a bit silly, in my opinion.

This week's internet-word-of-the-month, on the other hand, can easily be ignored until or unless it becomes common currency amongst normal people.

Paper, after all, is a finite resource.
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Old 24.06.2011, 11:38
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your definition of fun disturbs me....
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Are you looking forward to the Zürchers vs Baslers curry tomorrow night, by the way? (adrianlondon, your presence is required, too!)
Maybe! I think there's a dedicated thread on that topic, to which I may have posted. So I may be looking forward to that.
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your definition of fun disturbs me....
You don't know the half of it, my lad.
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

Nice try mate!

Number 1

or 3

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You're confused, or deranged. "I'll look forward" is clearly future tense, not past.

Are you looking forward to the Zürchers vs Baslers curry tomorrow night, by the way? (adrianlondon, your presence is required, too!)

Note to OP: Here, you simply can't say "Do you look forward to the curry?". It just ain't right. Apologies on behalf of the entire anglophone world.
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

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mmm....

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Old 24.06.2011, 12:04
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

Well the poll is clear.

People who voted for option 3 are reasonable, well balanced, educated people because the majority of them voted for both 3 and 1.

People who voted only for 1 are obviously grammar Nazis who can't see beyond their own narrow minded vocabulary.

And well done to stanrm for not being a sheep.

I anticipate your feedback with pleasing expectations.

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mmm....

I suspect you may be confusing me with some other fellow...
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People who voted only for 1 are obviously grammar Nazis who can't see beyond their own narrow minded vocabulary.
Or are just poor foreigners whose mother tongue is not English but had to go through 2 years of Proficiency Exam stress induced...
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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

Yes, of course 1 and 3 are correct, but a point that's not been made is that usage depends largely on whether the meeting in question is definite.

I tend to say "I look forward to meeting you..." if it's the first time I'm in touch with someone, and nothing definite has been arranged.

Once a meeting has been scheduled, and especially if it is to happen quite soon, with perhaps some discussion about the content of the meeting, it is more natural to say "I'm looking forward to meeting you". I would say that if someone called me in the morning to confirm the time of a meeting in the afternoon, for instance.

Not a hard and fast rule, and you could get away with doing the opposite but there is a subtle change of mood between the two versions that seems more appropriate to this equally subtle change of circumstances.

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Re: Look forward or Looking forward ?

It's that subtle change of mood and circumstance that separates the "natives" from the rest.
But at times even we do be doing the wrong forwardlooking as well, like.
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Somehow none of the options sounds right unless finished with "...Mr Bond." whilst stroking a big fluffy cat.
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Yes, of course 1 and 3 are correct, but a point that's not been made is that usage depends largely on whether the meeting in question is definite, and has been arranged.

I tend to say "I look forward to meeting you..." if it's the first time I'm in touch with someone, and nothing definite has been arranged.

Once a meeting has been scheduled, and especially if it is to happen quite soon, with perhaps some discussion about the content of the meeting, it is more natural to say "I'm looking forward to meeting you".

So if someone calls me in the meorning to confirm the time of a meeting in the afternoon, I'm more likely to say "I'm looking forward to meeting you".

Not a hard and fast rule, and you could get away with doing the opposite but there is a subtle change of mood between the two versions that seems more appropriate to this equally subtle change of circumstances.
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It's that subtle change of mood and circumstance that separates the "natives" from the rest.
But at times even we do be doing the wrong forwardlooking as well, like.
If it's the first time you're in touch with someone, nothing definite has been arranged and you say, "I'm looking forward to meeting you," you risk sounding like a stalker.
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