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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

A collage of some interesting photos on the door, like this one



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Well, on her door there is a seasonal wreath. When I arrived, it was Easter themed. Then on the 21st of June she changed it to one with miniature beach umbrellas and sea shells. Is anyone inspired by this?
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To be honest I feel a bit sorry for the OP's neighbour. She's probably some old dear that lives on her own with no-one to talk to all day and looks forward to the times when there's a bit of people traffic outside her door.

If it were me I'd try to exchange a few words with her each day, even if it's just about the weather but perhaps that's just me and my funny European up-in-your-business ways.

After my grandfather passed away, I remember my grandmother would chew the ears off anyone who would visit or even just pass by the garden if she was gardening.

I'm glad nobody was so disrespectful as to tell my grandmother to "mind her own beeswax".
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Well, on her door there is a seasonal wreath. When I arrived, it was Easter themed. Then on the 21st of June she changed it to one with miniature beach umbrellas and sea shells. Is anyone inspired by this?
Well at least you could compliment her on the decoration - she might be friendly then on.
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unfortunately the expression has nothing to do with "onions".
In the french expression it comes from the word "oigne" which means ass/buttocks. It's the equivalent of "occupe toi de tes fesses".
Quite. That's what I said.
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To be honest I feel a bit sorry for the OP's neighbour. She's probably some old dear that lives on her own with no-one to talk to all day and looks forward to the times when there's a bit of people traffic outside her door.

If it were me I'd try to exchange a few words with her each day, even if it's just about the weather but perhaps that's just me and my funny European in-your-business ways.

After my grandfather passed away, I remember my grandmother would chew the ears off anyone who would visit or even just pass by the garden if she was gardening.

I'm glad nobody was so disrespectful as to tell my grandmother to "mind her own beeswax".
I know, I know. I actually like sweet or eccentric people of all ages--especially if it helps me practice a foreign language But the thing is that she is MEAN, and xenophobic. She makes pointed comments about all of the foreigners moving in to the area (me!), how the local university is going to hell because of the new president's desire to hire only non-Swiss (again, me and my husband).

But, I guess you're right. My shoot first and ask questions later approach isn't the most patient one in this situation...
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

I put some crazy stuff on our door and when people dare to knock, I know I want to be friends with them, hahahah....

It does not sound as if your neighbor was trying to be so friendly, though. If she is not aggressive, shrug it off. Be home and do not open. When I ask "quoi?" too many times, or say "vous pouvez repeter encore une fois, svp" very often, try it, you will see what happens. It's ok to be friendly and not feeling like responding to her help, not letting it phase you. Are her jabs failed attempts to be funny? It's true that intrusive in the US and intrusive here are two different things, with some people, mind you. Most that I know are very discrete. I wouldn't open too often, and when I would, it would be with a very large, oblivious smile.
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Maybe I could try something like this on my door? Could be pretty funny....
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

Hi,

Unfortunately we had faced the same issue 2 months back, where we stayed earlier. it was ridiculous. An old lady disturbed quite often even at weekends by ranging bell for no reason. Initially we were pissed off and we avoided/ignored her. but then later we were very polite and shown some concerns and explained her in good way about this. it worked out for me. she was good to us later.
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Maybe I could try something like this on my door? Could be pretty funny....
Hahahah, I am afraid she might ring the buzzer every day to try to explain to you that it is not xmas now.

She sounds like a darling. If she makes the comments about furiners, furiners having to take jobs (btw) at UNIL and EPFL since there aren't enough local brains, and other gems, my door would stay shut. I would practice French elsewhere, to save my sanity. There is a slight possibility that she has no personal opinion on furiners, the only thing she knows she is fed by 20min, and she brings out topics she can quote on, in order to relate to you (since she knows you are Yank and your hubby at uni). But I wouldn't speculate to excuse somebody with sheer lack of....whatsit.....decency?

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Make sure there is ample S&M gear strewn about the appartment.
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

Hi,

You have different way of saying "mind your own business" in French. The more polite way could be "cela ne vous concerne pas" or "c'est ma vie privée et je souhaiterais que ça le reste" or "je ne crois pas que ce soit vos affaires "

"Occupe toi de tes oignons" is very familiar and quite rude, it might really upset her. And I have to agree with everyone, it is better to be patient and polite with her or it could be worse....

If she asks you if you did pay for taxes or anything law-related, you could answer : "ne vous inquiétez pas, je me déjà suis occupée de tout ça". It means "don't worry, I already took care of it". I think it could be diplomatic way to show her that you know how to handle your swiss life.

I hope that she will be nicer in the future. She might be trying to upset you, to proove herself that all foreigners are rude and she is right not to like them. But if you stay polite and nice, she might get bored of disturbing you and find another victim...

Good luck !
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Hahahah, I am afraid she might ring the buzzer every day to try to explain to you that it is not xmas now.

She sounds like a darling. If she makes the comments about furiners, furiners having to take jobs (btw) at UNIL and EPFL since there aren't enough local brains, and other gems, my door would stay shut. I would practice French elsewhere, to save my sanity. There is a slight possibility that she has no personal opinion on furiners, the only thing she knows she is fed by 20min, and she brings out topics she can quote on, in order to relate to you (since she knows you are Yank and your hubby at uni). But I wouldn't speculate to excuse somebody with sheer lack of....whatsit.....decency?

Here, another door art

This is fantastic! I think something crazy like this should keep the neighbors at bay. Or if they do show up, they'll get invited to tea where I'll explain that all they have to do is accept Jesus etc. Give them a religious tract with flames on it as a parting gift. Also, consistent with my deep south origins.
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Next time open the door wearing this mask also an axe in your hand would not hurt ...Jokes aside I would tell her to mind her own business and close the door on her face, bullies will be bullies until someone stands up to them...good luck

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If she asks you if you did pay for taxes or anything law-related...
WFT?! If someone asks that of me, in a situation where they think I'm doing something illegal, I'll be telling them where to stick their question quite bluntly... and it could be around the "onion" area if that helps clarify my position.

Why on earth should anyone have to put up with this?

Let me tell you about when I first moved here. The "hauswart" was living next to me, so I know where you are coming from, OP.

Similar situation. Came back one day to find a note pinned to my door telling me that my behaviour was unacceptable (and she listed three examples), and that she would contact our landlord if it continued.

To cut a long story short, I wrote back strongly worded letter, pointing out that: in one of the instances we had immediately addressed the concern and asked her to provide other examples (which she couldn't, and I knew it, and she knew that I knew it); in another instance we had not broken any rule; and in the third it was her fault that we had transgressed. I concluded by inviting her to contact my landlord.

Never heard another peep from her and she addressed a point that we had previously asked her to do immediately.

You are dealing with a xenophobic, racist, bigoted woman. She doesn't need much sympathy, unless you happen to be Gordon Brown.
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WFT?! If someone asks that of me, in a situation where they think I'm doing something illegal, I'll be telling them where to stick their question quite bluntly... and it could be around the "onion" area if that helps clarify my position.

Why on earth should anyone have to put up with this?
My exact sentiments, but I think the Swiss as well as the Germans and Dutch are a bit too nosy. I will give you a real like example...My grandfather passed away and my mom and uncles decided to get together with their half brother who they had never met and receive them back home, he went with his German wife. The stoopid woman started asking questions about the will, I mean WTF? Like you are gonna be mentioned beatch?

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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

I actually find people very discrete, maybe it is the region or what, but it's true that when it comes down to rules, rules following, taxes, vignettes, parking tickets, fines and other things people really worship, it's not a private biz no mo, it's a public domain here. So, that neighbor might be not thinking about your privacy at all, but having the community interest on her mind....at all times, obviously.

(just to warn, crap on the door might be an offense as well, check your contract , just like leaving shoes outside, etc etc.).
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You are dealing with a xenophobic, racist, bigoted woman. She doesn't need much sympathy, unless you happen to be Gordon Brown.

Jeez Carlos, been eating a thesaurus?
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(just to warn, crap on the door might be an offense as well, check your contract , just like leaving shoes outside, etc etc.).
That's why I was thinking that a wreath (inappropriately seasoned) would be PERFECT. She loves her OWN wreaths--what's she going to do--have a petition to ban wreaths? Plus, a wreath that subtly mocks her love of wreaths is also kind of hilarious.
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Jeez Carlos, been eating a thesaurus?
No. A dictionary...
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