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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

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That's why I was thinking that a wreath (inappropriately seasoned) would be PERFECT. She loves her OWN wreaths--what's she going to do--have a petition to ban wreaths? Plus, a wreath that subtly mocks her love of wreaths is also kind of hilarious.
Aww....do you need some odd objects to decorate the wreath with?

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(god, makes me feel guilty how nice our neighbors are...really, super. If you feel the same way, anybody, time to show them your appreciation, summer raclette festivities are a ok, we are doing ours soon)
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Old 07.07.2011, 12:44
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That's why I was thinking that a wreath (inappropriately seasoned) would be PERFECT. She loves her OWN wreaths--what's she going to do--have a petition to ban wreaths? Plus, a wreath that subtly mocks her love of wreaths is also kind of hilarious.
Buy an identical wreath to hers. When she changes it, buy another identical one and so on. She'll think you're stalking her in some weird étranger fashion.
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I know, I know. I actually like sweet or eccentric people of all ages--especially if it helps me practice a foreign language But the thing is that she is MEAN, and xenophobic. She makes pointed comments about all of the foreigners moving in to the area (me!), how the local university is going to hell because of the new president's desire to hire only non-Swiss (again, me and my husband).

But, I guess you're right. My shoot first and ask questions later approach isn't the most patient one in this situation...
If it's any consolation, my Swiss husband who lived in the US for 22yrs,(here 2 yrs) is a bit "perturbed by what's happened to his country". This is due to "all the foreigners" who moved here. Hmm, wonder where that leaves me? He says I don't count, I'm "married to a Swiss". (Sure, tell that to all the Swiss people in Coop, who looks at me in that same tone of voice).
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Old 07.07.2011, 12:45
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Buy an identical wreath to hers. When she changes it, buy another identical one and so on. She'll think you're stalking her in some weird étranger fashion.
She is clearly making these opere d'arte with her own glue gun. So, I think a trip to Migros Do it+Garden is in order.
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Old 07.07.2011, 12:50
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WFT?! If someone asks that of me, in a situation where they think I'm doing something illegal, I'll be telling them where to stick their question quite bluntly... and it could be around the "onion" area if that helps clarify my position.
I have to confess I think that would have been my reaction too ! But I was trying to think as a Swiss would do, I heard that they hated frontal confrontation... But Carlos R, you are my hero on that one
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Old 07.07.2011, 12:52
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That's why I was thinking that a wreath (inappropriately seasoned) would be PERFECT. She loves her OWN wreaths--what's she going to do--have a petition to ban wreaths? Plus, a wreath that subtly mocks her love of wreaths is also kind of hilarious.
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She is clearly making these opere d'arte with her own glue gun. So, I think a trip to Migros Do it+Garden is in order.

I think I'm really liking this gal! Welcome to Switzerland!!
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If people interfere in my business, I wind them up mercilessly:

"Having friends round this evening, I see?"

"Yes. It's Samhain, and the Blessed Coven of the Goat Sucking Beast always come round mine to celebrate. They're looking forward to seeing the new flat - we're on a ley-line, you see, and there's a confluence of earth-energy streams right under this very building! Can you believe that? It would certainly explain all those lights and noises every evening. Anyway, do you know whether any of the butchers in the village would be able to sell me a black cockerel?"
Go on, give us a Swiss German translation, could come handy one day

I agree with Nil that it might not be the best way forward. But if you do, use the 'vous' not the 'tu'. Something like 'Vous ètes très gentille, mais désolée, occupez-vous de vos oignons, merci'.

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Old 07.07.2011, 13:28
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If it's any consolation, my Swiss husband who lived in the US for 22yrs,(here 2 yrs) is a bit "perturbed by what's happened to his country". This is due to "all the foreigners" who moved here. Hmm, wonder where that leaves me? He says I don't count, I'm "married to a Swiss". (Sure, tell that to all the Swiss people in Coop, who looks at me in that same tone of voice).
I think this is SOP for most EU countries where someone marries a foreigner and takes them back home after a few years of being away. It doesn't matter how many foreigners there are, e.g. I heard the same thing in a country with only 2% foreigners living in it, it's a statement of rapid change that really doesn't have so much to do with foreigners as it does with that things are changing must faster and cultures are losing their once very distinctive features. It's "Wherever you go, there you are." writ large.

Outside of Maine in the US, it would seem absurd to marry someone from Colorado who has lived in DC, marries a Marylander and moves back to Colorado only to note how so few folks living there are from Colorado anymore. Mainers, on the other hand, stick to their own, much like a small European country.
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Old 07.07.2011, 13:45
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Answer the door in a red bustier and matching G-string, invite her in for a cup of tea and ask her pointed questions about the local swinging scene and whether she would be interested in any extra-curricular activities.

Make sure there is ample S&M gear strewn about the appartment.

Oh, and I recommend Earl Grey. It has that certain je ne sais quoi.
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Outside of Maine in the US, it would seem absurd to marry someone from Colorado who has lived in DC, marries a Marylander and moves back to Colorado only to note how so few folks living there are from Colorado anymore. Mainers, on the other hand, stick to their own, much like a small European country.
I grew up in CT (mainly) and VT (summers, though my sister who most hated summers in VT moved there permanently 20 years ago). Learned early on that "City People", aka "New Yorkers", were evil.

That's why I like CH. I don't know my neighbors, and they don't know me, though we might start talking after 10-20 years and they know I'm not just passing through.

Just like New England!

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I grew up in CT (mainly) and VT (summers, though my sister who most hated summers in VT moved there permanently 20 years ago). Learned early on that "City People", aka "New Yorkers", were evil.

That's why I like CH. I don't know my neighbors, and they don't know me, though we might start talking after 10-20 years and they know I'm not just passing through.

Just like New England!
Yeah, folks up there just don't like outsiders, newcomers or the dreaded city folk invading their space and while they might tolerate you living up there, they make no bones about you never being one of 'them'. I knew a woman who moved up to Maine with her family when she was ~5yo and when she moved to Boston at 35, she was still regarded as an outsider. Just like Europe.
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

why is the EF recommended course of action whenever these threads pop up to be a self-hating foreigner and bend over backwards to placate the locals no matter how rude and idiotic they are? tell her to f--- off.

when i moved into my apartment i shoved a newspaper under the front door to lodge it open while i was unloading my car parked 2 meters away and some lady in the building started to rudely lecture me about how leaving the door open jeopardizes the safety of the building. as if some ninja burglar would sneak past me while i moved stuff from the car to the lobby. i simply laughed in her face and told her to stop being ridiculous. needless to say we are not friendly but i dont care.
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:11
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

There is only one permanent way to stop this intrusion into your private life, and that is to tell the concierge, in no uncertain terms, in any language of your choice, to get on her bike and start peddling. I speak from experience! When the now ex-concierge of our building sees me coming, she runs back into her appartment! It is also reasonable to assume that one of the reasons the aforesaid being is now the EX-concierge, is due to the fact that not only did I not put up with her nonsense, but would pull her up everytime she did not do what I and others were paying her to do.
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

Perhaps turn the tables on the concierge. At least 3x a day - let's say 7:05 in the morning, 11:45am and 9:55pm, knock on the concierge's door and ask helpful questions like what is she having for breakfast? Is Denner or Migros better to shop at? Did she remember to wash her hands after going to the toilet? Does she fancy nipping down the pub for a quick pint?

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Nice one: So you'd have an American telling off a concierge (who very probably is Portuguese) in Swiss German, a language they both do not understand. That would be Babel in perfection

I do not have anything against portuguese people! It is just that very often the concierges in Lausanne are Portuguese. Personally, I lived in four different appartments in Lausanne, the concierges were invariably Portuguese. One of them was very nosey. Another one was so so, while the two other ones were exceedingly nice people.
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Re: Nosy "concierge"--Mind your own beeswax (French)

true true. most concierges in lsn are definitely portuguese. loved our last conierge- so nice and really friendly. sounds like this one you have is a problem though. honestly, i would just smile, say- i'm so sorry i have so much to do and screech out of there.

when you see her make sure you are on the phone or scurrying from one place to another and you just don't have time. she'll get the idea and probably feel bad about you being american and having to work so much and never being able to rest as working is what you people do
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Nice one: So you'd have an American telling off a concierge (who very probably is Portuguese) in Swiss German, a language they both do not understand. That would be Babel in perfection

I do not have anything against portuguese people! It is just that very often the concierges in Lausanne are Portuguese. Personally, I lived in four different appartments in Lausanne, the concierges were invariably Portuguese. One of them was very nosey. Another one was so so, while the two other ones were exceedingly nice people.
The concierge in question is Swiss. She has lived in this building with her husband and son for 30 years now. She also has a 28 year old son whom she waves away every morning at 9:30 from her balcony as he leaves to go to the university. He goes out with his parents on Friday nights, too. She likes doilies. And decorative wreaths.
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I do not have anything against portuguese people! One of them was very nosey.
*puts on national cape and assumes SuperMan pose*

Though portuguese people might be nosey in the sense of having a long nose, it is not normal to be rudely nosey. Portuguese women are usually quite nice, but those of an advance age tend to pick a conversation with the neighbours for the sake of company ('coz, as my dear German better half says, we talk too much (even for women) ). But plain rudeness was never a cliché associated to us!
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The concierge in question is Swiss. She has lived in this building with her husband and son for 30 years now. She also has a 28 year old son whom she waves away every morning at 9:30 from her balcony as he leaves to go to the university. He goes out with his parents on Friday nights, too. She likes doilies. And decorative wreaths.
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