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Old 21.09.2011, 15:22
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Chuchichäschtli

Hi all!

I'm looking for some pointers on Swissgerman pronounciation and some typical Swissgerman phrases.

One thing I've heard (From a person living in Bern) is that a "ch" is pronounced with emphasis on the "h" if a vowel follows the "ch"...any other information?

I would also like to learn some typical Swissgerman phrases, what I've heard is that Chuchichäschtli and Chäschüechli are typical Swissgerman words

I speak a bit of Hochdeutsch but Swissgerman is very different!

This site is pretty funny and good: http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm
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Old 23.09.2011, 21:08
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Re: Chuchichäschtli

Really no interest in this?

Anyways yesterday I bought a book - Deutsch to Schweizerdeutsch
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Old 25.09.2011, 15:42
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Really no interest in this?

Anyways yesterday I bought a book - Deutsch to Schweizerdeutsch
mulsanne,

sometimes these threads catch on some times they dont. they come and go like ritual bird migrations...

here's one from last year started by yours truly which did rather well which i enjoyed, perhaps you might like it!

German: Favorite words in DE and CH-DE
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Re: Chuchichäschtli

Danke!

I'll read it with pleasure
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Hi all!

I'm looking for some pointers on Swissgerman pronounciation and some typical Swissgerman phrases.

One thing I've heard (From a person living in Bern) is that a "ch" is pronounced with emphasis on the "h" if a vowel follows the "ch"...any other information?

I would also like to learn some typical Swissgerman phrases, what I've heard is that Chuchichäschtli and Chäschüechli are typical Swissgerman words

I speak a bit of Hochdeutsch but Swissgerman is very different!

This site is pretty funny and good: http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm
I do not know what the meaning of this "emphasis" thing should be. The "ch" is always pronounced as ONE letter, the "ch", so that you cannot emphasize one part or the other as there are NOT two parts.

Some phrases where you can use Chäs-Chüächli and Chuchichäschtli :

E: Do you want some Chäs-Chüächli ?
High German : Hätten Sie gerne Käse-Schnitten ?
BE: Heitet är gärn paar Chäs-Chüächli ?
ZH: Hättet är gärn paar Chäs-Chüächli ?

E: Did you put the plates into the kitchen-cupboard ?
High German : Haben Sie die Teller im Küchenschrank versorgt ?
High German : Hast Du die Teller im Küchenschrank versorgt ?
BE: Heit där d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
BE: Häsch d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
ZH: Händ Si d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
ZH: Häsch d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?

E: Peter is most extremely tired
CH-G : Dä Peter isch ganz gruusig uff dä Schnurre

E: where is the way to the rail station ?
CH-G : Wodure gaats da zum Bahnhof ?

E: there is some draught in here
SH: Es luftet da ine
ZH+BE: Es ziät da ine
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Re: Chuchichäschtli

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BE: Heit där d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
BE: Häsch d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
äuä!!!
(Bernese expression for surprise, protest, disbelief and a lot of other things)

The only way "Chuchichäschtli" is used in Bern is as follows:

Foreign language speaker: teach me a word in Swiss German
Person from Bern: say "Chuchichäschtli"
Foreign language speaker: ku?!?
Person from Bern laughs.

A kitchen cabinet in Bern is a Chuchischaft.
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Re: Chuchichäschtli

Wolli, do you say chuchi or chuechi ?
I might hear a phantom diphtong, I trust your word more than my northern hearing. (In the north, Köök is with long vowel).
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Wolli, do you say chuchi or chuechi ?
I might hear a phantom diphtong, I trust your word more than my northern hearing. (In the north, Köök is with long vowel).
"Chuchi" with a very short "u"
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I do not know what the meaning of this "emphasis" thing should be. The "ch" is always pronounced as ONE letter, the "ch", so that you cannot emphasize one part or the other as there are NOT two parts.

Some phrases where you can use Chäs-Chüächli and Chuchichäschtli :

E: Do you want some Chäs-Chüächli ?
High German : Hätten Sie gerne Käse-Schnitten ?
BE: Heitet är gärn paar Chäs-Chüächli ?
ZH: Hättet är gärn paar Chäs-Chüächli ?

E: Did you put the plates into the kitchen-cupboard ?
High German : Haben Sie die Teller im Küchenschrank versorgt ?
High German : Hast Du die Teller im Küchenschrank versorgt ?
BE: Heit där d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
BE: Häsch d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
ZH: Händ Si d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?
ZH: Häsch d'Täller im Chuchichäschtli versorget ?

E: Peter is most extremely tired
CH-G : Dä Peter isch ganz gruusig uff dä Schnurre

E: where is the way to the rail station ?
CH-G : Wodure gaats da zum Bahnhof ?

E: there is some draught in here
SH: Es luftet da ine
ZH+BE: Es ziät da ine
Thanks for this! That was exactly what I was looking for! Merci vilmal

I just ordered a book - Oh, dieses Schweizerdeutsch! ISBN-9783866869127 - that also covers some interesting phrases and alternative spelling... it's pretty difficult, but if you are interested in learning anything can be accomplished...I hope
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Re: Chuchichäschtli

I've written some of my own observations in my latest blog post: http://lewisdale-swiss.blogspot.com/...ss-german.html

And I've also included some additional learning materials (inc. the link you posted in your opening post).



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I've written some of my own observations in my latest blog post: http://lewisdale-swiss.blogspot.com/...ss-german.html

And I've also included some additional learning materials (inc. the link you posted in your opening post).



Mods: if linking to my blog is inappropriate, no worries, I can remove the link if you so wish.
and of course, nobody walks on the "Gehsteig" but on the "TROTTOIR" and you enter trains from the PERRON and public transport sells you a BILLET, and you do not go to the "Innenstadt"/"Innästadt" but to the "City" (which is 'downtown' here. And nobody uses a Hubschrauber but a Helikopter
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Hi there, all very good advice.

One tip........practice practice and more practice. Make your intentions clear to a native Swiss German speaker and go for it. Ask to be corrected when you get it wrong, but stick at it.

You're sure to earn their respect (not always easy) if nothing else.

Good luck to you.
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