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Old 01.04.2012, 18:37
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German teachers come to the rescue! ( Präpositionalgefüge /A /P ??? )

Please, I'm going bonkers here. My son has a German grammar test tomorrow. It's about structure of a sentence and the function of words/word groups, e.g. subject, verb, object and so on. So far everything is fine. Now there are some expressions like "Präpositionalgruppe", "Adverbiale Gruppe" "Adjektivgruppe", still something we both get. But now it comes: After these Gruppe-words there is sometimes /A or /P to distinguish them even further. What on earth do /A and /P stand for? Tried to google, but in vain. Is this something specific Swiss?

Help, pleeeaaaaaaase somebody!
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Old 01.04.2012, 18:42
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Re: German teachers come to the rescue!

Can you put a sample question here so we can take a look ?
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Re: German teachers come to the rescue!

For example:

Sarah fürchtet sich vor Spinnen. Präpsitionalgefüge/A

Er hält es für nicht angemessen Präpositionalgefüge/P


Should I call the teacher?
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Old 01.04.2012, 18:52
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Re: German teachers come to the rescue!

http://www.cosmiq.de/qa/show/2699984...tionalgefuege/

Präpositionalgefüge

Taking a wild guess A = Active, P= Passive ??
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Old 01.04.2012, 18:59
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Präpositionalgefüge

Taking a wild guess A = Active, P= Passive ??
Unfortunately not. Both sentences are active.

And thanks for the link, but we know what it is. We just don't know what the additional /A or/P mean.


Edit: Teacher does not answer the phone...
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Old 01.04.2012, 19:31
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Unfortunately not. Both sentences are active.

And thanks for the link, but we know what it is. We just don't know what the additional /A or/P mean.


Edit: Teacher does not answer the phone...
Doesn't surprise me.
Even back when I went to school (in Germany, some 25+ years ago), teachers tended to have unlisted phone-numbers....

As for your question: you have my sympathy. I'm German and grammar was always a weak point in school...this is more or less the first time I hear about this ;-)

Maybe take a look at the source:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/80226880/3...sitionalgefuge
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I would look through his school book in the relevant section as the A and P might become clear through examples given. If it is not active or passive, I really haven't got a clue.

I always told kids to not leave it to the last minute to prepare a test, so that if anything is unclear they leave themselves time to check with me before the week-end. But kids are kids (mine drove me nuts too..). Viel Glueck dabei.
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Re: German teachers come to the rescue!

I think it's telling you that it uses a preposition (P) , while A is an attribute or adverbial.

Here's some more

http://www.elementary-particles.net/...aepgefuege.pdf
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I think it's telling you that it uses a preposition (P) , while A is an attribute or adverbial.

Here's some more

http://www.elementary-particles.net/...aepgefuege.pdf
If you look at my examples, they are both using prepositions. And there is also the ominous /A or /P with adverbial and adjective constructions.
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If you look at my examples, they are both using prepositions. And there is also the ominous /A or /P with adverbial and adjective constructions.
I'll just clarify/correct what I said - in that one is a prepositional object, rather than the straightforward use of a preposition.

Wikipedia

And some other exercises specifically adverbial v prepositional object here
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For example:

Sarah fürchtet sich vor Spinnen. Präpsitionalgefüge/A

Er hält es für nicht angemessen Präpositionalgefüge/P


Should I call the teacher?
From the three examples given in this google resulthttp://www.elementary-particles.net/...aepgefuege.pdf, my guess that Präpsitionalgefüge/A probably stands for Präpsitionalgefüge Attribute or Adverbiale, Präpositionalgefüge/P for Präpsitionalgefüge Präpsitionalobjekt.

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I think it's telling you that it uses a preposition (P) , while A is an attribute or adverbial.

Here's some more

http://www.elementary-particles.net/...aepgefuege.pdf
We use the same google article!
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