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Loosing accent?

Hello!
We are moving to Zurich next month.
My son is 3 and speaks English with a very stRong English accent even though at home I speak a different language to him.
He will be attending international school.... Will he loose his accent?
Any experience on that?
Just wondering....


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Re: Loosing accent?

Yes based on your location he will learn to speak with a strong American Accent!!!
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Kilchberg ? He will be around in the area, have lots of friends and contacts, some English speakers but lots of others. His accent will rather become close to Züritüütsch
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Re: Loosing accent?

If he's only three he will pick up any language that is spoken around him when growing up. If you talk to him in what is a foreign language to you and there's nobody else talking to him in that language, he will sound exactly like you (with exactly your accent). But this is common knowledge, isn't it ?
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Re: Loosing accent?

He will never lose his accent
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Re: Loosing accent?

Mini-Scotney (2 yo) already has the following accents to contend with;

Cockney (dad)
Glaswegian (mum)
Mancunian (his birthplace)

... so it's anyone's guess what he's going to sound like once he picks up a Schweizer-Deutsch dialect on top !!

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Re: Loosing accent?

Depends...I grew up with a Bavarian mom and a Mancunian father...in the Midwest. Even now (though I admit to living in London for a number of years), I can drop into an accent that most English will claim but cannot place. Best fun ever was a holiday in Madeira where a cranky English gran (cannot remember where she was from, but definitely north) gave me the furry eyeball and said, you aren't American but where, precisely, are you from as you keep confusing me?! Much hilarity ensued as I explained and we bonded over hating the posh London couple who wanted tofu for lunch on the tour and splashed around 100 euro tip for the driver. She was a hoot. (I don't get quite the same hassle with the Germans when speaking German...but the Swiss, of course, were a different story.. ).

So, the short answer is, no, he won't lose the accent, but accents change as do dialects so he'll just be a conundrum when he travels and confuses the locals.
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If he's only three he will pick up any language that is spoken around him when growing up.
So that explains why kids these days sound like bloody Tellytubbies!
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Re: Loosing accent?

Even at 33, my accent and vocabulary has changed numerous times over the years as I've moved from different German speaking regions here in Europe. When I started to learn German, my teacher was Austrian... so my accent reflected that. Then I moved to Luzern. My accent reflected that. I spent a lot of time in Hessen Germany. Even the vocabulary and huge quantities of swearing caught up with me. Now living here near Chur, I always get "Are you from Holland"?!? I don't know how I ended up there being originally from Canada... But YES, accents change and they will change your whole life (my experience)... Go to southern USA and in 1 week you'll start to talk with a drawl... go to west coast Canada and you'll start using the goofy vocabulary and accent there in even less than a week
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Mini-Scotney (2 yo) already has the following accents to contend with;

Cockney (dad)
Glaswegian (mum)
Mancunian (his birthplace)
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... so it's anyone's guess what he's going to sound like once he picks up a Schweizer-Deutsch dialect on top !!
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it will not be "Schweizer-Deutsch" but it will be Baaasel-Tiiitsch !

and on the English side it will be a nice BRITISH mix !
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it will not be "Schweizer-Deutsch" but it will be Baaasel-Tiiitsch !

and on the English side it will be a nice BRITISH mix !
Have you read the original OP - htf do you pick up a a swiss german accent in an international school
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Now living here near Chur, I always get "Are you from Holland"?!?
I am often asked by speakers of Swiss-German if I am from the Netherlands - which I took as a compliment to my growing confidence auf Deutsch. Unfortunatley I've come to learn that it only means I make mistakes in German similar to those that Dutch speakers tend to.

Native speakers of High German peg me for an American right away, though.

Whilst I speak all acquired languages with an American accent, I've been told that my English is not easily placed. Perhaps my twenty odd years of traveling the globe has softened the rougher edges of my American twang.
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I don't get quite the same hassle with the Germans when speaking German...but the Swiss, of course, were a different story..
If you speak Bavarian, there most likely will be some "hassle" north of the Taunus-Line. But none overhere in Switzerland where Bavarian is rather popular.

If you have a hassle it may be that you sound like a Preuss !


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Even at 33, my accent and vocabulary has changed numerous times over the years as I've moved from different German speaking regions here in Europe. When I started to learn German, my teacher was Austrian... so my accent reflected that. Then I moved to Luzern. My accent reflected that. I spent a lot of time in Hessen Germany. Even the vocabulary and huge quantities of swearing caught up with me. Now living here near Chur, I always get "Are you from Holland"?!? I don't know how I ended up there being originally from Canada... But YES, accents change and they will change your whole life (my experience)... Go to southern USA and in 1 week you'll start to talk with a drawl... go to west coast Canada and you'll start using the goofy vocabulary and accent there in even less than a week
Texas for instance ? I learnt English, British English, first here and then in London, and back here again for the Cambridge Proficiency, but later, four times, visited relatives in Texas. And was astonished when a chap in Crete (Kreta) told me that my basic English may be British, but that he heard something far far far more West !

Mum, while having learnt her English in Switzerland, during her four visits to Texas (nrs 2 + 3 + 4 with me) had learnt real English language over in the LoneStarState, and so in English practically spoke Texan (up to a year before her end)
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Re: Loosing accent?

My Mother (australian) lived in Switzerland for 25 years and after moving back to OZ people asked her if she's from NZ or SA.

My english always sounded like a bad mixture of OZ, Zürischnurre and American TV. Now I speak "proper english" with my other half, my english has not only improoved but I am also developing a strong british accent...

So, yes he will loose it.
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I don't think I'm loosing my accent but I do feel I'm loosing my English vocab. Having to dumb down my English to get by and speak basic German.

My OH has an Aussie Swiss accent so I really enjoy talking to Brits!!!
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I don't think I'm loosing my accent but I do feel I'm loosing my English vocab. Having to dumb down my English to get by and speak basic German.

My OH has an Aussie Swiss accent so I really enjoy talking to Brits!!!

It will not happen overnight but very very very slowly over years, over decades
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Depends...I grew up with a Bavarian mom and a Mancunian father...in the Midwest. Even now (though I admit to living in London for a number of years), I can drop into an accent that most English will claim but cannot place. Best fun ever was a holiday in Madeira where a cranky English gran (cannot remember where she was from, but definitely north) gave me the furry eyeball and said, you aren't American but where, precisely, are you from as you keep confusing me?! Much hilarity ensued as I explained and we bonded over hating the posh London couple who wanted tofu for lunch on the tour and splashed around 100 euro tip for the driver. She was a hoot. (I don't get quite the same hassle with the Germans when speaking German...but the Swiss, of course, were a different story.. ).

So, the short answer is, no, he won't lose the accent, but accents change as do dialects so he'll just be a conundrum when he travels and confuses the locals.

I have been confusing every English speaker I've met for so long, and it is great fun. Nobody has ever guessed where I am from correctly. Dutch? Welsh? South African? Nope - bizarre as my MT is French.

My parents never had a local accent, but in my teenage years I adopted one for fun and to fit in. Now I can switch it on and off - depending on the situation. Accents are wonderful. My Brit OH has no accent at all - well not in English - his French accent is so cute.
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Kilchberg ? He will be around in the area, have lots of friends and contacts, some English speakers but lots of others. His accent will rather become close to Züritüütsch
Doubt it. We lived in Kilchberg for 8 years and our children attended ZIS. Although one of our children attended local Swiss school for one semester, our children were never invited into Swiss homes. (and my husband is Swiss....)....Unless they are quite persistent, and not sensitive, they will have a hard time to integrate. The local community has so many "transients", which may be a reason for sticking to themselves.

Most likely, he will develop an American accent. ZIS is not officially American, but the large majority speak with an American accent.
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