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Old 20.01.2013, 12:52
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This is not the question!! I really like you and respect your knowledge, but there are totally unambiguous ways of saying it correctly in German, there is no reason not to use them and avoid the problematic am nächsten Freitag.

am kommenden Freitag vs. am Freitag nächster Woche.

There is no way to understand that wrong. Alternatives in Tilia's and my own messages above.
Not quite. What if you say this Friday on a Friday? Does it mean today or the coming Friday? Of course you could say today, but that is akin to using a date. Ditto for next Friday on a Friday.
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I am sorry to insist, but to a German head, there is no problem whatsoever. The question about the ambiguity of "am nächsten Freitag" that people with weak German (including native speakers, I hear it in school too) has been answered. Anything else in an issue with English, not German.
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Old 20.01.2013, 13:06
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I am sorry to insist, but to a German head, there is no problem whatsoever. The question about the ambiguity of "am nächsten Freitag" that people with weak German (including native speakers, I hear it in school too) has been answered.
You are absolutely right. People with weak German capabilities, including native speakers, can have a problem with the proper use of this expression, so just saying "nächsten Freitag" is a risk and not to be recommended, unless you want to run a language test, first.
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Old 20.01.2013, 13:56
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While the French can deal with something twisted around (there are plenty of examples in their language), I guess it must drive the logical German-speakers around the bend.
In french if I want to see you this Friday, I will tell you "on se voit vendredi?" but if I want to see you Friday next week, I will tell you "on se voit la semaine prochaine, vendredi?" which is the same in German, right? although in English you can also say "shall we meet a week from Friday?" you don't say that in French...
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We had a diary fail this week when talking to a German speaker in English....we said on Wednesday, "Could you please meet us next Friday?" which to English speakers clearly means in nine days time, but obviously not to German speakers
Not 'obviously' to English speakers either. At best it's ambiguous, at worst it would often be understood to be the following Friday from when you're saying it. 'Friday week' or 'a week (on) Friday' would be normal to be more clear.
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Old 20.01.2013, 23:30
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I am sorry to insist.
No you aren't. Insisting is your favouritest (sic) thing
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Old 20.01.2013, 23:43
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Must have been discussed before, but our search function doesn't like searching for "next"

We had a diary fail this week when talking to a German speaker in English....we said on Wednesday, "Could you please meet us next Friday?" which to English speakers clearly means in nine days time, but obviously not to German speakers

How would German speakers say what we meant? "Friday next week" or similar?
Comen problem with my wife,but then she is Irish"next" to me ,means any day after wednesday. Wednesday,Thurstay Friday
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and what would people think if you said next friday when it was 23.59 on thursday?
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Old 21.01.2013, 02:02
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and what would people think if you said next friday when it was 23.59 on thursday?
I need more time
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Not quite. What if you say this Friday on a Friday? Does it mean today or the coming Friday? Of course you could say today, but that is akin to using a date. Ditto for next Friday on a Friday.
I can't think of an instance ( in English) where someone would say "See you this Friday," meaning the current day. That would be "See you later (today)."
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I think most English-speakers would start their week on a Monday.

The next battle is to get everyone to use the sensible and useful word "fortnight" ...
Not when one is a shift worker where neither Sunday nor Monday may be the first day of the week in some contexts.

Not when I lived in Libya where I felt I was well into the week by Monday.

I use "fortnight," though don't think it would work in the example given by CavierChips. That would be two Fridays away, or perhaps anywhere between next Friday and the Friday after. Also, I find that even some native ENglish speakers don't seem to have an understanding of "fortnight." Is it an old fashioned word that is not so well known now? ( along with "shall" instead of "will."

Shall I meet you in a fortnight, on Friday?
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Old 21.01.2013, 08:12
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Not when one is a shift worker where neither Sunday nor Monday may be the first day of the week in some contexts.

Not when I lived in Libya where I felt I was well into the week by Monday.

I use "fortnight," though don't think it would work in the example given by CavierChips. That would be two Fridays away, or perhaps anywhere between next Friday and the Friday after. Also, I find that even some native ENglish speakers don't seem to have an understanding of "fortnight." Is it an old fashioned word that is not so well known now? ( along with "shall" instead of "will."

Shall I meet you in a fortnight, on Friday?
Most English-speakers aren't shift workers, nor do they live in Libya.

All English-speakers understand the word "fortnight". American-speakers don't.
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Old 21.01.2013, 08:18
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Not 'obviously' to English speakers either. At best it's ambiguous, at worst it would often be understood to be the following Friday from when you're saying it. 'Friday week' or 'a week (on) Friday' would be normal to be more clear.
Maybe its a regional or national thing then. I would never say "next" Friday for the....errrr.....next Friday coming, I'd say "this" Friday"
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Sounds like you've done everything right. You had the appointment and no Germanz showed up. What's not to like?
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Maybe its a regional or national thing then. I would never say "next" Friday for the....errrr.....next Friday coming, I'd say "this" Friday"
Regional maybe, and no, if it were a Wednesday and I meant the Friday two days later _I_ wouldn't say 'next Friday' either. But if someone said it to me my first reaction would be to ask if they meant two or nine days later, as it would be at best unclear. I would never assume they meant the latter.

That's not the best example though, perhaps if it were Monday and you said 'next Saturday' you might agree that it would be completely unclear which 'next' one you meant.
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All English-speakers understand the word "fortnight". American-speakers don't.
I never realised this. Saw an old Simpsons episode last night, where Lisa used 'fortnight' in a way that I supposed was meant to be funny but didn't see why. Now I begin to understand.
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I never realised this. Saw an old Simpsons episode last night, where Lisa used 'fortnight' in a way that I supposed was meant to be funny but didn't see why. Now I begin to understand.
is fortnight already considered as archaic usage???
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And just to make it even more confusing, I've been known to say "see you next Tuesday" when I never want to see the person again.
Bollocks. I was going to say that.
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Regional maybe, and no, if it were a Wednesday and I meant the Friday two days later _I_ wouldn't say 'next Friday' either. But if someone said it to me my first reaction would be to ask if they meant two or nine days later, as it would be at best unclear. I would never assume they meant the latter.

That's not the best example though, perhaps if it were Monday and you said 'next Saturday' you might agree that it would be completely unclear which 'next' one you meant.
No, I'd always be clear which I meant

Id always say "this" for the upcoming one, and "next" for that which follows. I thought we all knew that. But now you've got me wondering. I feel a poll coming on, 'cept I'm mobile and can't
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I think most English-speakers would start their week on a Monday.
Nope, Sunday.

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