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Old 17.02.2013, 15:08
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Collar Stays

Ayn idea what the small pieces of plastic that go into shirt collars to give them shape are called in the German speaking part of the country? In English they are usually called "stays" or "bones"
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Old 17.02.2013, 15:16
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Re: Collar Stays

Kragen ?
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Re: Collar Stays

If I buy a shirt and it has plastic bits in the collar I throw them away...

I thought they were just for when it's on display in the shop.
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I think Kragen is the collar itself. I mean in the pointy bit, sometimes there is a slot where you can insert a flat plastic piece (instead of starching). Its the plastic I need
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Re: Collar Stays

Ah, then it is Kunststoff-Kragenstäbchen

http://german.alibaba.com/products/p...tiffeners.html
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Re: Collar Stays

Kragenstäbchen
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Old 17.02.2013, 15:25
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Thanks - is that what they would be colloquially called too?
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Re: Collar Stays

Well, you know me by now... if Swiss-Germans don't understand my German, I don't consider them worthy of talking to me. So, to me, it's colloquial. But for them... no idea.

Most Germans I know change the -chen into -li here. I don't.
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Old 17.02.2013, 17:22
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Ayn idea what the small pieces of plastic that go into shirt collars to give them shape are called in the German speaking part of the country? In English they are usually called "stays" or "bones"
i call them collar stiffners. i usually throw away the plastic ones. i have too many metal ones.
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Old 19.02.2013, 00:23
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Re: Collar Stays

I don't wear shirts that need bones much anymore, although I still have some. You can get replacements here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pairs-Premiu...1229646&sr=8-1
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Ayn idea what the small pieces of plastic that go into shirt collars to give them shape are called in the German speaking part of the country? In English they are usually called "stays" or "bones"
Kragenstäbchen or Kragenverstärker

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Well, you know me by now... if Swiss-Germans don't understand my German, I don't consider them worthy of talking to me. So, to me, it's colloquial. But for them... no idea.

Most Germans I know change the -chen into -li here. I don't.
In writing it is .....chen, but in dialect ......li

In Standard German it of course remains ....chen
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Re: Collar Stays

Brings back memories. In the late 1950s I worked for a company called Courtaulds, they were the first ones to bring man-made-fibres onto the market. This allowed the introduction of the drip-dry-shirt, made of nylon, you could wash it in the evening and wear it again in the morning. After one day it was necessary anyway, the body's sweat couldn't get out. After a few washes the nylon started to turn a sort of dirty yellow, the only things that remained white were these plastic tabs which were removed before washing and reinserted before wearing.

Didn't know they still had them today.
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Re: Collar Stays

DR's helpful tip of the day.

I used to have quite a few shirts with collar stays. But sooner or later they would get lost. I used to get a handful of free replacements at the store where I bought suits, but never had them with me on the road, so I discovered that in a pinch, you can just cut up an old credit card or hotel key card and make your own. Works great and it's free!

Of course, now that I think about it, I haven't worn a tie in about 3 years, and a suit, what is that again?

....Anybody want to buy some custom made imported collar stays?
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Re: Collar Stays

Hawes and Curtis shirts come with a 2 pairs per shirt
TM Lewin - 1 pair per shirt - depending on collar cut - 6.0 or 6.5cm

My metal bones are 6.5 - most of the collars are 6.0

Grr
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Old 19.02.2013, 11:06
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If I buy a shirt and it has plastic bits in the collar I throw them away...

I thought they were just for when it's on display in the shop.
The big plastic bit that goes around the back of the neck - you can toss it.

The little pointy bits that go into slots along the collar tips - don't throw those away. They keep your collar tips from curling. Some are just sewn in so they never fall out. If they are removeable, remove them before washing and drying. They can easily get lost in the washer, and warped in the dryer.
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They can easily get lost in the washer, and warped in the dryer.
And melted on the rare occasion I drag out the iron..
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Re: Collar Stays

Caviarchips, PM me your address and I will send you some metal ones. I have an online bespoke shirt business and have plenty here.

For anyone interested, there are 3 types of collar finishes. One completely without lining which you might see on a casual shirt. Then there is a 3 piece constructed collar which has a floating interlining, this tends to be harder to iron straight but won't curl as much. The third is a fused collar, simple to iron and always looks unfurled unless you toss your shirt in a tumble dryer. When you do this the interlining, which is fused to the outside collar fabric, shrinks more than the cotton fabric on the outside. As it contracts it tends to curl the collars at the tips, and without bones will end up with a "Flying Nun" effect. Even with collar bones (or stays) the tips will curl slightly.

Business is slow now that we are in CH, any other questions about shirts to keep my brain ticking over?
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Well, you know me by now... if Swiss-Germans don't understand my German, I don't consider them worthy of talking to me. So, to me, it's colloquial. But for them... no idea.

Most Germans I know change the -chen into -li here. I don't.
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And melted on the rare occasion I drag out the iron..
Good point. Don't put them back in until AFTER you iron. Or be like me, and buy "wrinkle-free" or "no-iron" shirts. Hubby doesn't care, but since I do the laundry and ironing, I do!!
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Well, you know me by now... if Swiss-Germans don't understand my German, I don't consider them worthy of talking to me. So, to me, it's colloquial. But for them... no idea.

Most Germans I know change the -chen into -li here. I don't.
Careful, Faltrad. Your German arrogance is showing. Might need to put a collar on that.
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