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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

When I first moved to the German-speaking region of Switzerland I started off with the Michel Thomas cd's (although I had done a basic course before) and it helped me a lot in daily conversations.

As much as I recommend you to grind through the grammar books and do the exercises, it is equally as important to start speaking the language (regardless of how many mistakes you make) and for this I found the Michel Thomas method to be very effective.

There's no reading/writing involved, only listening and repeating.


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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

My daughter is learning German. Bloody hell it is hard. These plonkers who say the it is just like English are dumkopfs. Sure, sometimes it is similar but so is a chimpanzee to a human.

For now I am sticking with the German I know; hande hoch, schnell, raus, achtung spitfeur.

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My daughter is learning German. Bloody hell it is hard. These plonkers who say the it is just like English are dumkopfs. Sure, sometimes it is similar but so is a chimpanzee to a human.

For now I am sticking with the German I know; hande hoch, schnell, raus, achtung spitfeur.

German is a bit hard at the beginning, but later is much easier than English, probably cause grammar has a bit more logic. As i've learned both by myself at home (english also in school and university). Swiss German was for me easier for pronunciation. My German is quite ok after 6 y here, although im still using mostly english on my work.

1st and 2nd year was a bit hard, but as i were speaking german with some colleagues its much, much better. Persistance, persistance...nothing else....
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

When I first moved to Switzerland, 3 years ago, I started learning German at home using Rosetta Stone. Whilst I found it helpful for some basic vocabulary I couldn't make any sense of the grammar as I find grammar much simpler to learn when somebody explains it, unfortunately I don't seem to work well with the 'just start speaking and eventually you'll pick it up' technique. Anyway, I got to a point where I could easily order in restaurants etc, but not an awful lot more.

At the end of April this year I started an intensive German course. I was lucky that my work agreed that I got drop my hours down to 60% so I am at school every morning, work in the afternoon and homework in the evening. Although it's very intense I am now at a stage where I can deal with most situations here (in High not Swiss German) and can happily chat with anybody

I think it really depends on your style of learning. You need to be very motivated to learn at home and also find an effective way of learning the grammar. Some people seem to be good at just picking it up, but I need to understand the rules and how to apply them, so for me being taught was the much better method.

My experience of German grammar is that it really is hard at the beginning. Things just don't seem to make sense (as a native English speaker) and it's very overcomplicated. Also, just as you've mastered one thing, they throw in some other rule that confuses matters! However...when you start using it and you practise more and more things do start falling into place. My brain hurts a lot less during the classes nowadays

I would highly recommend to anyone living here to learn at least some German, people appreciate it so much when you try!

Good luck to all you German learners out there...it's tough, but you can do it!
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

oh yeah - I'm an at home learner right now - and not so many speaking occasions in Dubai - we would love a job to come to in Switzerland please - any offers? I am enjoying the Pimmsleur also Deutsche Well online course, by books from a course I did in der Schweiz and help from my Swiss friend - also having Germany radio playing all day helps - its picking up those einem and dem der situations and recognising the case which is a trick as is learning vocab....planning to do my A1.2 Goether test before year end ...... more tips welcome
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

There is great online portal I have been using for online classes was www.verbalplanet.com. I found that they had the biggest selection of teachers at different price levels. There are other portals out there, but I liked this one the most. With most teachers you can even have one free lesson to test the service.

For self study there is also a great series of language courses that I have been using for french, italian and german. It's called "Assimil: German with Ease" (for studying german of course): http://www.assimil.com/descriptionPr...IdMethode=3571

A great book about studying a language in general is: "The Birkenbihl Approach: Brain Friendly, Accelerated Language Learning".

And a language course with this Birkenbihl method for german will be available as of July as well: "Birkenbihl Sprachen: Brain-friendly German".

You can find these books and courses for a cheaper price than in Switzerland via www.amazon.de (or maybe amazon.fr as well). They delivery for no charge to Switzerland, and you even save the VAT.
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

start offering english lessons......that way you will be forced to communicate.....tough but it will work, when I started learning german i was the only guy in an office of 10 swiss boys.....had shit loads of fun....they learnt english and I learnt german.....doing it at home alone will take too long......
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I highly recomend Rosetta Stone. You can buy the program for your computer, or you can just do the online course.

I cannot say enough about how good it is. I am learning my French on it. The US military uses it even. My brother learned Arabic and Polish that way.

It's a tad pricey, but totally worth it. I suggest the online course.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I've been struggling in choosing Fluenz or Rosetta Stone. Both of them are very expensive, but I'll risk the investment
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

Have you ever tried the online resources from the "Göthe Institut" ?
http://www.goethe.de/lrn/duw/deindex.htm
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Lots of excellent ideas and links, thanks all.

But I'd say that as a language is all about communication- only learning at home is not ideal. Being part of a group gives meaning and purpose to learning and is much preferable. Finding a good class and teacher is not easy, I agree.
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

thanks, always looking for new exercises with answers - and some people/sites explain things slighly differently which all helps - like I think I am finally getting my head around cases.......This site http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html has some wonderful explanations and exercises......even in text books I have they are not always clear......yes I agree its a bout talking, but learning what words are needed is a help....I am blessed to have a patient freind who helps me out with reading and conversation every week - she roared with laughter today with my version of Apotheke - It is so necessary for an Australian (me) to have my accent re orientated to hear the German scounds - like Geschichte and Gesicht - 2 very different words but that icht sound is a toughie for me.......we have had lots of laughs over bruder and brüder, much "spaß" - another word that took me ages to say well.
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Re: Learning Deutsch at home

My experience with Migro's A1 Intensiv was a disaster to say the least. The course layout covered all topics in the A1 book(Intensiv part1-4 weeks-Intensiv part2- another 4 weeks).

Almost none of the students came out of the class with much more knowledge of German than they did when they entered. Comprehension levels did rise throughout the weeks but without day to day practice, I doubt this level will last for most of us.

I can understand why they do the course in such a manner, many of the students that enter the class are foreigners seeking opportunity in Switzerland and are perhaps in a program or a job that is paying for these lessons. The trouble is that the process seems more like a cookie cutter approach that will render varied to less than desirable results.

I wouldn't try to study German at home(either with another format or continuing to A2-B2) until you have a few classes under your belt so that you can properly navigate some of the nuances of learning the language. The classes may not use an approach that you will find productive to your learning style, but you should at least come out of them with some general understanding.
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