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Help with translating written Swiss-German

Can anyone suggest a good site that can help me translate a letter written in Swiss German?

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Old 21.01.2008, 16:01
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Can anyone suggest a good site that can help me translate a letter written in Swiss German?

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Swiss German is a only a spoken language, not a written language. I suspect your letter has been written in high German in which case you could try google translate http://www.google.com/translate_t
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Re: Swiss German to English

So quick....thank you, i will give it a go. However, i have tried German to English but it's very patchy.
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Can anyone suggest a good site that can help me translate a letter written in Swiss German?

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It is possible it's written in Swiss-German. This would be written phonetically and each village and town has a different version so you need to know where the person writing comes from then read it out loud. If it is Swiss-German there'll be lots of 'ööö' s in it. It will be another century before Babelfish can handle it...
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Can anyone suggest a good site that can help me translate a letter written in Swiss German?

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I changed the topic to be a bit more descriptive.

Written SG is pretty cryptic. Even for the Swiss. I know many that have to sound out what's written down before they can figure it out. The Schnitzelbaeaengg written in Baslerdytch during Fasnacht are a good example of this.
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Can anyone suggest a good site that can help me translate a letter written in Swiss German?

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I read and write in Swiss-German so perhaps I can help you out? Swiss German is also a written language and I have recently seen a site that attempts to make give the written language common rules, but it is something of a free for all, with everyone writing as they please. Makes it quite fun.
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Re: Help with translating written Swiss-German

It's not very likely that this letter is in Swiss German. In fact if you've used the Google translator and got a half decent result, it was not.

If you haven't recieved this letter from the authorities and are indeed convinced it is Swiss German, you can write me a private message and I'll translate it, as I'm a native speaker.

By the way, Schnitzelbanks are an extreme case, I don't think that Swiss from Basel usually write their dialect like this with so many "YY"s. It may be hard sometimes but I can pretty much understand all written dialects.
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Re: Help with translating written Swiss-German

Thank you everyone for your replies, i have managed to translate it more or less. It turns out the letter is in both German and Swiss German.....very helpful indeed!!
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By the way, Schnitzelbanks are an extreme case, I don't think that Swiss from Basel usually write their dialect like this with so many "YY"s. It may be hard sometimes but I can pretty much understand all written dialects.
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Same here and honestly it gets on my wick when people say that Swissgerman is not a written language.

Granted that there might not be a general Thesaurus covering all the grammatical rules and acting like a dictionary,but there are quite a lot covering several dialects.

Ever heard of Jeremias Gotthelf who used a mix of high german and Swissgerman in his books, or Rudolf von Tavel who wrote book after book in Bernese dialect more than hundred years ago.........and whose writing (e.g. grammar and spelling) was a sort of foundation for many others to build up on.

Only because the dialects are not used as official languages, doesn't mean they are not languages in their own right

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feel free to get in touch with me by PM if you want to have something in SWISSgerman written or translated
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