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Re: Easiest Way to Learn a New Language is....

At least you said "knackered" and not "naked", like a friend of mine who was visiting!

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Agreed But perhaps it is one of the hardest thing, to learn the difference between different registers, slang, regionalisms and 'standard'. That takes a loooong time. I learnt the hard way that some of the words, expressions, etc, are totally acceptable in one setting, and not in another. That was perhaps even more the case in the 70s, where separate audiences were perhaps even clearer than now. I remember saying in a very formal setting that I was 'knackered' - and it certainly resulted in some very high high eyebrows and shock - which may not happen now (Medical Society Dinner at the Grand Hotel). Someone explained that I was 'foreign' and the audience relaxed a bit .... When you learn by immersion, you pick it all up like a sponge, and then have to sort it all out in different categories. To some extent I had to do that with my native tongue, and learn that many words and expressions which are totally fine in Suisse Romande, are not in France. Simple things like 'septante' or 'un linge' (une serviette/a towel) or 'une patte' (un torchon, a dish cloth) or expressions like 'c'est bonnard' (c'est super, it's great. Bonnard was the best shopping store in Lausanne- hence the expression), etc.
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Old 03.07.2013, 17:11
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I have just come back from our village market and while discussing with our cheese seller of the merits of a particular type of goat cheese, here is his comment: "vous pouvez me faire confiance la-dessus"! Bingo! He is born and bred Genevan. So whilst I agree it might perhaps fit better in the colloquial register, it certainly is well alive in Geneva as well as the Loire Valley, and to say it is not correct is condescending. q.e.d!

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fit better in the colloquial register
Bingo, we all agree.
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Old 03.07.2013, 17:34
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The lesser, the greater and the moderately talented all a big happy family now. This world is just so wonderful.

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To sleep with it.


That's what my mother used to say.
Doesn't say much about the Brits this stupid expression 'to sleep with somebody' - I mean, honestly, who wants to sleep when you are .......
learning a new language, hey
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But the most embarrassing (or the funniest, depending on where you stand) was when an old friend from Paris came to your typical Nottingham hair salon and asked for a "blow job" after his hair cut when he meant a "blow dry". The hairdresser still laughed about it 10 years later!

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At least you said "knackered" and not "naked", like a friend of mine who was visiting!

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Ooops, our French assistante decided to cook a typical French meal for the family she was staying with. Queued for quite a while at the excellent butcher in the village and asked with a big smile 'Have you got a big cock?' - everybody fell about laughing and the butcher said 'come round the back me luv...'. She of course didn't have a clue and just wanted to cook 'coq au vin'. She'll never make the same mistake again, that's for sure.
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One of my earliest blunders was to make the following goodbye at a dinner party of my elderly french host.

"merci pour le magnifique nuit"

to which she instantly replied "mémorable pour moi aussi"

My wife thought it was very funny.

Turns out I'd thanked her for our wonderful night together..
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He is born and bred Genevan.
Genevans can speak French?

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Doesn't say much about the Brits this stupid expression 'to sleep with somebody' - I mean, honestly, who wants to sleep when you are .......
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Yeah, but there is a difference between(se) coucher and dormir, no?
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Exactment - the english 'to sleep with someone' is a bit boring, no?

Greenmount one of the few sentences Brits know in French 'voulez-vous coucher avec moi?' because of the song.
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To sleep with someone is a little more PC, and almost family friendly.

It is through learning what is boring and spicy that you really learn how to use a language. You can try to teach what the difference is, but it is only through trial and error that you can get a grip on it....
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Hey Bobby! What's french for Va Va Voom?!

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NOw, this is really ancient! Thierry who???

Well since you think it's really ancient, I thought I'll ask Renault to make a new ad for you, with extra Va Va Voom!

So without further ado... Voila!

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Since we're sharing fun stories...one of my best girlfriends is from Brazil. When she first started college with us, she continually mixed up collar and color, hangers and hunger, etc. One of her friends came to visit and stayed for a party. As she was leaving the next day, she told the hosts "thanks for the sex" but what she really meant was thanks for the socks, which she had borrowed after kicking off uncomfortable high heels.
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Re: Easiest Way to Learn a New Language is....

Ill second this, been using Pimsleur along with Michele Thomas for a while now. I prefer Pimsleur for German because MT has a very heavy accent (not sure what the accent is), he is one of the best though thats for sure. I heard his french course is great.
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My experience when I was student was to be motivated on learning a new language and investing a good time for this.
If you live in local language which you want to learn, it is better.

My gradual steps for an approaching contact with a new language when I lived in Switzerland:
Reading everything around you even if you havenīt known what it means, principally the local news. Watching only the local language programs.
Reading some Romans, for children is better in reason of vocabulary and sentences structures are more easy.
Talking too much to children, they are very patient and thoughtful. They donīt care if you talk or not to talk, īcause they want to communicate.
Having a great knowledge of native language grammar, īcause you can apply the Universal Grammar method for comparing the phrasal structures between languages (native one and new one)
Seeking a language school that you can have some contacts with others mates and of course many activities and some examens applied by institution to level your abilities. They propose to you some methods and of course the price is very important to invest to a new language.
Writing so much to give you abilities and a comprehension how is the function of the language.
Being curious in a way of social language, listening the news on the radio īcause they speak correctly the language.

Thatīs all for while...
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If you live in local language which you want to learn, it is better.

My gradual steps for an approaching contact with a new language when I lived in Switzerland:
Reading everything around you even if you havenīt known what it means, principally the local news. Watching only the local language programs.
Reading some Romans, for children is better in reason of vocabulary and sentences structures are more easy.
Talking too much to children, they are very patient and thoughtful. They donīt care if you talk or not to talk, īcause they want to communicate.
Having a great knowledge of native language grammar, īcause you can apply the Universal Grammar method for comparing the phrasal structures between languages (native one and new one)
Seeking a language school that you can have some contacts with others mates and of course many activities and some examens applied by institution to level your abilities. They propose to you some methods and of course the price is very important to invest to a new language.
Writing so much to give you abilities and a comprehension how is the function of the language.
Being curious in a way of social language, listening the news on the radio īcause they speak correctly the language.

Thatīs all for while...
Good advice, spitch. In fact even when I'm only visiting a place I amuse myself trying to learn a few words in the local language, hear the sounds and intonations. It's fun.
Btw, another fun way - find a partner of writing (a native speaker, preferably a very eloquent one). Send e-mails or letters which they can correct and write back to you suggestions and new expressions. (I had one, it was a very good way to improve my German, apart from language courses and conversations in German)

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[QUOTE=greenmount;2439383]Good advice, spitch. In fact even when I'm only visiting a place I amuse myself trying to learn a few words in the local language, hear the sounds and intonations. It's fun.

Yes, thatīs it! the intonations and the sound of a new language are crucial for learners, īcause similar words, similar sounds exist in any language to the comprehension in a context and still false cognates.
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