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Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind"?
I think it should be "Kinder".
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

Dative, Indirect Objekt:




mit den Kindern

Ich gebe den Kindern ein Stück Torte
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

It depends on which case you are using.
Die Kinder is the plural of das Kind but in the dative case the plural is den Kindern ( and Kinder takes an n at the end).

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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

Both words mean children, it depends on its place in the sentence,

nominative, accusative, dative and genitive
die Kinder, die Kinder, den Kindern, der Kinder

Please read this wikipage, has more details

Hope this helps you
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

mit, von, bei, are always followed by Dativ


So you will say:

Urlaub mit kleinen Kindern (Dat)

Ich habe zwei kleinen Kinder (Akk)
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

Thank you all.
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

...... and so to bed.

Schläft Kindlein, schläft.
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

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mit, von, bei, are always followed by Dativ


So you will say:

Urlaub mit kleinen Kindern (Dat)

Ich habe zwei kleinen Kinder (Akk)
Just a small correction: Ich habe zwei kleine Kinder.
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Re: Is "Kindern" the plural of "Kind" in German ?

All that you said above. Moreover, it's same what you learnt when growing up. Who would have said no to Kinder egg or Kinder surprise back then?

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Just a small correction: Ich habe zwei kleine Kinder.

Oops, jawohl!

I put Akk in parenthesis and yet I wrote kleinen


It's interesting to point out that in German some masculine substantives have the same ending (n or en) than in Dative or Genitive.

der Nachbar (Nom.)
den Nachbarn (Akk.)

Ein Junge geht zum Arzt (Nom.)
Ein Mann geht zum Arzt (id.)

Ich habe einen Jungen kennengelernt (Akk.)
Ich habe einen Mann kennengelernt (Id.)
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It's interesting to point out that in German some masculine substantives have the same ending (n or en) than in Dative or Genitive.
Schwache Maskulina. Socalled weak masculine words. There is also one weak neutrum: Herz, but with both en and s in Genitive. Notice that the medical language usually makes Herz a strong neutrum, without the extra en.

Fact nobody cares about: weak feminina all lost their en in singular, they are now all normal feminina with Plural marker en.
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Schwache Maskulina. Socalled weak masculine words. There is also one weak neutrum: Herz, but with both en and s in Genitive. Notice that the medical language usually makes Herz a strong neutrum, without the extra en.

Fact nobody cares about: weak feminina all lost their en in singular, they are now all normal feminina with Plural marker en.

I care, I really care. Thanks for posting about the 'weak feminine' nouns. I had never heard of them before! Danke dir vom ganzen Herzen.
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