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Old 20.04.2014, 22:49
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

The communications department of your company should have decided already which version of English should be used. If it hasn't then you need to hire me stat to sort it out.
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

Neither! Both! I find that non-native English speakers usually are more familiar with British names for things (I suspect from school), but American phrasing and turns of expression (most cite Hollywood, or television for this). I have adapted to using a sort of hybrid which uses whatever I feel will help me communicate best with my audience.

For spelling, just be consistent. And avoid any obscure or potentially confusing terms. Get a non-native English speaker to proofread it, and alert you to anything they find difficult.
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Old 21.04.2014, 08:47
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

I can only tell you what the rule is for Swiss public schools is:

- either one is acceptable
- teachers are supposed to point out the differences both in language and in culture for a variety of English dialects
- course books (such as Headway) use a mix of different dialects

and from my own experience as a teacher:

- schools don't really care whether a teacher uses BE or AE
- students often don't even notice the difference :-)


For Cambridge exams (at least A1 to B2), the rule is that you need to be consistent, but only on a very general level. E.g. you can use "summarise" and "optimize" in one text, but you can't use "summarize" and "summarise" in the same text.
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

Out of curiosity: how many of you Brits now say "SK" for schedule instead of the "shh" sound?
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Out of curiosity: how many of you Brits now say "SK" for schedule instead of the "shh" sound?
"sk" same as scheme, schism and school.
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Out of curiosity: how many of you Brits now say "SK" for schedule instead of the "shh" sound?
None.
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Old 21.04.2014, 09:35
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Out of curiosity: how many of you Brits now say "SK" for schedule instead of the "shh" sound?
Here! (y) I'm English and I pronounce it like "skedule". I studied English Language at college and it was one of my favourite subjects (incidentally I just noticed there's a red zigzag error line underneath my word "favourite" there!) I put U's in my words but I must admit I get mixed up with -se and -ze endings sometimes. I sometimes use Americanised(ized?!) words if they take my fancy but I wouldn't intentionally use the US spellings; especially in formal situations. My concern would be inconcistency, it would be easy to miss one out.
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Old 21.04.2014, 10:44
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Good God! It's bad enough that Americans don't use the language properly, without everyone else following suit!

If you're writing in English, use English spellings!
Well I've worked in a few places over the years where it was clearly stated that the official language was American English.... And one of them was a Swiss company!
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Old 21.04.2014, 10:51
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Good God! It's bad enough that Americans don't use the language properly, without everyone else following suit!

If you're writing in English, use English spellings!
tss tss.. matter of choice.. quantity of people speaking/writing in a certain way or history


..and even then.. the pronunciation of American English is still closer to Shakespeare's English than today's British English.
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Out of curiosity: how many of you Brits now say "SK" for schedule instead of the "shh" sound?
+1, although maybe not systematically. Being too pedantic about which version of a language to use strikes me as being a little too "Académie française"
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Old 21.04.2014, 11:26
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

I think language is beautiful and I love the diversity. I find it fascinating how it evolves and how it is influenced by others. Has anyone here read any Medieval English?! Perhaps British English in the future will have been shaped by American English, perhaps it is already! I'd love to hear how it would sound in the year 3500 I wonder how different it will be from today's English as today's is to Medieval English!? Sorry went a bit off-topic a bit there
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

Well.... Middle English sometimes sounds like Swiss German..
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I think language is beautiful and I love the diversity. I find it fascinating how it evolves and how it is influenced by others. Has anyone here read any Medieval English?!
A-level English, Chaucer. Thanks for bringing back painful memories
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A-level English, Chaucer. Thanks for bringing back painful memories
haha, sorry! I did feel like I was the only one in the class who enjoyed it tbh!
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I once had to explain to a Swiss what a "wardrobe" is. They had only used the word "closet"
You did explain to them that it is all of the clothing inside the closet, didn't you? That, or the members of a set responsible for attire...
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A-level English, Chaucer. Thanks for bringing back painful memories
Oh come on ! You must have had a lousy teacher.
It's so much fun when taught correctly with insight by a professor who really enjoys teaching.
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I think American English is sort of the accepted "International English" and many Swiss (and other Europeans for that matter) defer to the American spellings and vocabulary.
That's interesting because when I visit a European web site or even other web sites outside the Americas that offer English as an option, British English tends to be used. I assumed that British English was international English rather than the other way around.

Although the debate between American and British English is moot. If you can write your CV in fluent German and English, I would guess that you'd be more likely to get a job in Switzerland.
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tss tss.. matter of choice.. quantity of people speaking/writing in a certain way or history


..and even then.. the pronunciation of American English is still closer to Shakespeare's English than today's British English.
And who said Shakespeare was right?
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And who said Shakespeare was right?
Spoken like a true scientist

Nevertheless you must have a point of reference somewhere from which to start.
A sort of Ab ovo, if you please.

To establish what is right or wrong rather than subjective, can literature and language be measured ?
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Spoken like a true scientist

Nevertheless you must have a point of reference somewhere from which to start.
A sort of Ab ovo, if you please.

To establish what is right or wrong rather than subjective, can literature and language be measured ?
If it can't be measured then why do you need your Ab ovo or a reference point at all?

Language is constantly evolving so using the language of 400 odd years ago as a reference doesn't make much sense.

In answer to the thread I think as long as you're consistent then you're fine. But even then the vast majority of people reading your job application in Switzerland won't be native speakers and probably won't notice.
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