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Old 21.04.2014, 16:13
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

Who says it can't be measured ? I am asking you the question since you believe there's a right and/or wrong.
I believe it's subjective.. but measurable.


Also there is a point.. you can't possibly know where you're going if you don't know where you've been, if only to study the patterns.


But yes, I do agree, in line with this thread (sorry OP for the digression), consistency is the only valid point.
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Old 21.04.2014, 16:25
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Oh come on ! You must have had a lousy teacher.
It's so much fun when taught correctly with insight by a professor who really enjoys teaching.The Wife of Bath remains my favorite
We "studied" (in the broadest possible sense of the word) "The merchant's tale." It bored me to tears - my teachers were excellent, I just had zero interest in the subject matter (I chose my A-level subjects poorly). Don't get me started on King Lear....
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Old 21.04.2014, 16:28
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haha, sorry! I did feel like I was the only one in the class who enjoyed it tbh!
I think there were some in the class who got something out of it, for me it was just miserable. I survived though: am now a software engineer
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We "studied" (in the broadest possible sense of the word) "The merchant's tale." It bored me to tears - my teachers were excellent, I just had zero interest in the subject matter (I chose my A-level subjects poorly). Don't get me started on King Lear....
Would that not be English Lit though? Literature is boring as, English language must be more interesting!
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Would that not be English Lit though? Literature is boring as, English language must be more interesting!
English lit is too massive to say the whole lot is boring, though.

I've studied texts that I can't connect with that aren't really my taste as much as I've enjoyed pieces which are fabulous.
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

Have you seen the lorry passing by... I meant the truck.

I think the roots are still definitely from Britain.

And after all British should give up their spoken accent, living in Switzerland...
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Old 21.04.2014, 23:33
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Although the debate between American and British English is moot. If you can write your CV in fluent German and English, I would guess that you'd be more likely to get a job in Switzerland.
That would go down a treat in Lausanne, or Locarno.
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Would that not be English Lit though? Literature is boring as, English language must be more interesting!
Yes, English literature. As far as I know there isn't (or wasn't in the early 90s at least) an English language A-level. I should have done physics
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Old 22.04.2014, 08:42
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Would that not be English Lit though? Literature is boring as, English language must be more interesting!
The subjects cross over IIRC, I took both and also Psychology and some topics covered both English and Psychology (child language acquisition is one I recall) I can't remember all the pieces we studied but some of them did crop up in both. FWIW I enjoyed English Lit too but I did find language more interesting. I did think the tutor was particularly good though and I think that does help a lot.

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I've studied texts that I can't connect with that aren't really my taste as much as I've enjoyed pieces which are fabulous.
Same <3 I think that's why I found language more interesting; just because it was ALWAYS interesting whereas occasionally in Lit I found some pieces not to my taste so periodically I felt bored.


Sorry OP! Hijacking your thread
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Old 22.04.2014, 08:50
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

I'm rather concerned that if I post on this thread that I will be stopped by Swiss authorities the next time that I try to leave the country and questioned about my orientation. Any thread that has a participant named "hairybadger" must have triggered all kinds of security alerts and local authorities monitoring internet forums.

However you care to spell it.
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Same <3 I think that's why I found language more interesting; just because it was ALWAYS interesting whereas occasionally in Lit I found some pieces not to my taste so periodically I felt bored.
I understand.. Where I did my training it is almost always assumed that students will split into a lit group and grammarians. Which annoyed me, I always liked both, it is so different.
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

There are a few studies out there that claim North American English to be more authentic to original english.

This phenomenon is commonly seen with "new world" languages (South American Spanish, Quebecois French), where the language style does not change as quickly as in the 'homeland' and after a few generations has a ancient sound to it in pronunciation.

I find myself using more British words when speaking English in Switzerland, as I assume most people in Switzerland are more accustomed to them.

Overall, I think the southern Ontario english (Toronto, Golden Horseshoe) is by far the easiest and clearest english to understand.
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

I find so many people now watching the TV series in original version in Switzerland, they most likely will speak to you using yank terms, but maybe that's just our area and age of people one speaks to. Jobwise, I think people doing the hiring don't really care, OP, as long as one is consistent.

Cannuck English is a little more understandable for a foreigner than US English at first, it's the slightly different melody, the intonation one has to get used to, I miss it. Alberta and BC - it was quite pronounced. Eh.
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Well I've worked in a few places over the years where it was clearly stated that the official language was American English.... And one of them was a Swiss company!
Out of curiousity, were there consequences for using UK English

English is English. It doesn't matter if it's UK or US English, just so long as you're consistent with the spelling.

I remain perplexed by the "English" options in a word documents though.
Why there are for example "Australian" and "New Zealand" spelling options is a bit beyond me. (There is also, Indonesian English whatever that is)

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Cannuck English is a little more understandable for a foreigner than US English at first, it's the slightly different melody, the intonation one has to get used to, I miss it. Alberta and BC - it was quite pronounced. Eh.
I've heard this a few times as well. It seems that Canadians are easier to understand.


Sadly, I've had to relearn how to pronounce words so that other people can understand me (let alone differentiate slang terminology from its origins).
I also mean 'clearly pronounce', not adopt another accent.
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Only if you tried to "bum a fag" off someone. That might have resulted in anything from a raised eyebrow to a lawsuit, depending on your tolerance and which side of the pond you grew up on...
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or send your kids to school wearing thongs and you put a rubber in their pencil case.
.... perfectly normal in Oz
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

The federal gov in Switzerland uses British English in its official translations and documents just like the EU.

But companies are obviously free to choose, not sure which is more prevalent to be honest, I suspect it very much depends on a decision made by the language department/translators rather than official policy for many Swiss companies but have nothing to back this up.
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or send your kids to school wearing thongs and you put a rubber in their pencil case.
.... perfectly normal in Oz
Well, if this is the case, I wouldn't want to understand you either.

Anyways, Oz English can be a bit tricky to understand, so are some people from Letterkenny, as I experienced. I also had a few moments of cluelessness in Blackpool and Bronx (but not sure if it was the accent)
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or send your kids to school wearing thongs and you put a rubber in their pencil case.
.... perfectly normal in Oz
Exactly. And perfectly easy to understand. It's much more comfortable wearing thongs in summer, letting the air circulate, and the rubber is there just in case of little "accidents" ...
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Re: "American English" or "English English" in a job application

At one of the big-4 accounting companies the "offical" English was US-English. The rule was, however, that British-English would be used unless the US was involved
Always made me laugh
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