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No, an event does not necessarily mean "coming out." Just saying.
Whereas a coming out always is an event to the ones coming out.
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Commas (or 'commata', as a colleague insists on calling them). Lots of them, and often unnecessary. In German they're obligatory under certain circumstances, but look awful in English. I hope, you agree. I know, that this is a problem.

Unless you want to speak like captain of the USS Enterprise.

(see Shatner pause :P )
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Old 15.10.2015, 10:23
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Oh yeah, and marmalade. You can't have strawberry marmalade, nor raspberry, and blackberry marmalade is out of the question. Those are jams. Marmalade is made from citrus fruits.
Or ginger.
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Whereas a coming out always is an event to the ones coming out.
I don't think "the ones" is correct here, by the way. "The one" would indicate a shortening of "the one person" (or man, woman, child, dog, etc.) so to pluralise it would not make sense, e.g. the ones children. You could perhaps replace it with 'those' or possible 'these' depending on context. It works in this case as "...an event to those coming out", being a shortening of "those people/men/dogs/children".


EDIT: Or not, as 22yards points out below.

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Old 15.10.2015, 10:40
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I don't think "the ones" is correct here, by the way. "The one" would indicate a shortening of "the one person" (or man, woman, child, dog, etc.) so to pluralise it would not make sense, e.g. the ones children. You could perhaps replace it with 'those' or possible 'these' depending on context. It works in this case as "...an event to those coming out", being a shortening of "those people/men/dogs/children".
I'm not too sure about that...
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And as a distraction, I looked around the interwebs a bit to see if I could find any others. Cane across this one http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/words/false_friends.htm which contains quite a few of those discussed as well as many others.

There's a couple that are not correct though, barkeeper isn't used to mean "Gastronom, Gastwirt" as stated, but well, a keeper of a bar, same as in German.
Another wrong entry is "Ambulanz" as (at least in CH) the word has the same meaning as ambulance, i.e. an emergency medical team in a special car you call to the spot. A hospital ER is called "Notaufnahme" or "Notfallaufnahme", whereas the "Ambulatorium" is a hospital station that functions like an ordinary doctor's office where people walk in for a scheduled appointment and leave within no more than a few hours.

"Kostüm" can both mean a carnival costume and a women's dress.

"Stuhl" can indeed mean human feces, human "Kot". Stuhl with this meaning is usually (always?) used in a medical context.
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Old 15.10.2015, 12:35
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false friends, bekommen means received not become. I used to be confused when someone at work kept asking me if I have become a bill yet.
and, more a pronunciation thing, but I love the idea of mother-in-love, so never correct my colleague.
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Old 15.10.2015, 13:07
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false friends, bekommen means received not become. I used to be confused when someone at work kept asking me if I have become a bill yet.
and, more a pronunciation thing, but I love the idea of mother-in-love, so never correct my colleague.

This reminds me of my all-time favourite email in Switzerland! At a former employer, the HR manager was elderly and very, very Swiss. He sent out an email one day to all staff informing us that "we are to congratulate Frau X as she has just become a baby"!

Sheer comic brilliance.
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Old 15.10.2015, 13:09
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"Stuhl" can indeed mean human feces, human "Kot". Stuhl with this meaning is usually (always?) used in a medical context.
That seems odd, but it's the same in English -- "stool" meaning a portion of poo in medical circles.
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a portion of poo
For some reason that's just reminded me of the TV adverts for Cadbury's Fudge bars

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Also until for by.
Can you write this report until Monday? (No, I want to sleep, but I will write it by Monday)
You must pay CHF30 until the 3rd. (What? Everyday or every hour?)
"Hello, Edward? Where is the report I asked for?"
"I'm writing it now. It should be ready by tomorrow."
"Tomorrow? I asked that you write it until Monday! Monday is today!"
"I know. If I was asked to write the report BY Monday, I would have started this last week, but I couldn't. You said "UNTIL Monday", so I assumed that meant 'Don't write the report UNTIL Monday.' Today is Monday, so now I'm writing the report."

I'd get fired for writing that, but the boss would realise that "until" does not have the same meaning in English as "seit" in German.
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"Hello, Edward? Where is the report I asked for?"
"I'm writing it now. It should be ready by tomorrow."
"Tomorrow? I asked that you write it until Monday! Monday is today!"
"I know. If I was asked to write the report BY Monday, I would have started this last week, but I couldn't. You said "UNTIL Monday", so I assumed that meant 'Don't write the report UNTIL Monday.' Today is Monday, so now I'm writing the report."

I'd get fired for writing that, but the boss would realise that "until" does not have the same meaning in English as "seit" in German.
Sure, and you've completely missed the point. "Seit" doesn't come into this at all. "Bis" is the word with two meanings here.
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