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Intensive German language school in Lucerne

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I'm moving to Switzerland in January and looking for an intensive german schoolin Lucerne.

Can anybody recommend a beginners course that provides at least 4 hours per day, 5 days a week?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

No. Attend the Goethe Institute in Germany. They provide accommodation. Check them out in Göttingen. You can attend for short periods as well and it is much cheaper and of a higher quality than classes in Switzerland.
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

Hello,

I am currently attending an intensive course at the Migros language school in Lucerne and have been since the start of September. I am very pleased with the results and have had many positive comments from German/Swiss German speaking family members. It is a 3 hr class with 30min break (9-12) with around 1 hrs study at home, studying the “menschen” text books.

We took 12 weeks to complete A1 and it feels like we will take the same time to do A2, which will be around the end of Feb.

I cannot comment on other schools but I am very happy with the results.

Feel free to mail me regards costs etc..
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Hello,

I am currently attending an intensive course at the Migros language school in Lucerne and have been since the start of September. I am very pleased with the results and have had many positive comments from German/Swiss German speaking family members. It is a 3 hr class with 30min break (9-12) with around 1 hrs study at home, studying the “menschen” text books.

We took 12 weeks to complete A1 and it feels like we will take the same time to do A2, which will be around the end of Feb.

I cannot comment on other schools but I am very happy with the results.

Feel free to mail me regards costs etc..
Migros classes are over priced and of a low quality.

A1 is also an extremely low level that would be better reached using Duolingo or another free App. The same with level A2.

Migros courses are for people who want to spend a lot of money and are ok with attending classes at A1 level with people who learn very slowly. You will never reach level C1 attending a Migros course, you will be just throwing away your money.
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

Interested to know what your experience of the Migro school is and why it is so negative.

Again I have had a really good experience. As for A1 being a low standard, well yes it is the lowest but as for using an app…..not for me. Everyone learns differently and I know I get more out of having a professional “teach” the language and discussing with classmates than sat at home staring at my phone/laptop. Especially considering A1 and A2 are the building blocks of what is my German understanding.

As for cost I looked around in Switzerland, not Germany, and they were well priced. If you have any suggestions for cheaper or better schools in the Lucerne area that will get m to C1 quicker I would be genuinely interested in knowing them.
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Interested to know what your experience of the Migro school is and why it is so negative.

Again I have had a really good experience. As for A1 being a low standard, well yes it is the lowest but as for using an app…..not for me. Everyone learns differently and I know I get more out of having a professional “teach” the language and discussing with classmates than sat at home staring at my phone/laptop. Especially considering A1 and A2 are the building blocks of what is my German understanding.

As for cost I looked around in Switzerland, not Germany, and they were well priced. If you have any suggestions for cheaper or better schools in the Lucerne area that will get m to C1 quicker I would be genuinely interested in knowing them.
As previously mentioned
- the Goethe Institute in Germany ( they have accommodation)

Also in Germany
- the Volkschule
I attended the one in Freiburg (€600 for a 3 month intensive course)

One place that i am also very impressed with is the (i think that it is the Volkshochschule) in Passau. They have an awesome Website with loads of exercises to download for free as well as verb tables etc. I think that the teachers here publish some books (not low level books like the migros school). If i had a choice i would attend this college. I would assume that the price is similar to thst of the Freiburg Volkshochschule.
The only problem is that you need to find your own accommodation in Passau.

Also i have discovered that
- Göttingen is awesome and the accommodation good
- in contrast, some people who stay in the accommodation at the Goethe Institute in München are (maybe they are asylim seekers) very noisy and not the studious type.

I only researched accommodation for the Goethe Institute C2 courses. I will post sone links for you.

The advanced people who i was attending the Volkshochschule classes with in Freiburg were all saying that the Goethe Institute courses are the best (but pricey , hence everyone started with the Volkshochschule - but the Volkshochschule standard is definately way higher than the migros courses).
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

Goethe Institute


Passau


Freiburg Volkshochschule
- Freiburg isnt a safe place anymore, but i will just add the link so that you can use it as a comparison.

Message me for the links - nice people from other countries such as poland etc. I have deleted them because i am tired of wasting my time helping rude english people.


PS - in Germany you will be being taught by very sttict german teachers, passionate about teaching German. (It is very important to learn correct German before you learn the variants, because once you learn a dialect instead of Hochdeutsch then it will be difficult for you to unlearn the "incorrect" (Swiss) German.)

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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

Why do you keep bringing up a school in Germany if OP is moving to Switzerland, therefore most likely has no interest in taking a course in another country and in locations that are nowhere near commutable? If he were in Basel then fine, you could have suggested a course in Freiburg. But OP is in Lucerne, so no-go.

Also, as with everything, quality at the Klubschule or any other school largely depends on the teacher. I've had very good experiences at the Klubschule and bad ones at language institutes and vice-versa.
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Why do you keep bringing up a school in Germany if OP is moving to Switzerland, therefore most likely has no interest in taking a course in another country and in locations that are nowhere near commutable? If he were in Basel then fine, you could have suggested a course in Freiburg. But OP is in Lucerne, so no-go.

Also, as with everything, quality at the Klubschule or any other school largely depends on the teacher. I've had very good experiences at the Klubschule and bad ones at language institutes and vice-versa.
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

You wont reach C1 level studying at a language school in Switzerland.

But i will leave you english people to find that out for yourselves. You are so up yourselves.
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You wont reach C1 level studying at a language school in Switzerland.

But i will leave you english people to find that out for yourselves. You are so up yourselves.
Sadly for you, I'm not one of those "English people" and I think only one person here is full of him/herself.

Also, they teach High German in Switzerland, in case you didn't realize. And of course it's possible to reach C1/2.
But you keep trolling and groaning Brösmeli - enjoy.
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You wont reach C1 level studying at a language school in Switzerland.

But i will leave you english people to find that out for yourselves. You are so up yourselves.
Man. Why do you have to be so aggressive and rude.
Glad you want to help but maybe people have their opinions and have different experiences.
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You wont reach C1 level studying at a language school in Switzerland.

But i will leave you english people to find that out for yourselves. You are so up yourselves.
Read and weep: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/n...ellowship.html

And do a search engine query of "super polyglot".

My grandfather's (a theatrical person) last stage hand arrived in Switzerland from Czechoslovakia the day of the German invasion, AFAIK speaking nothing but Czech. By the time I met her she owned a hair salon and spoke fluent German and Swiss German. My grandfather acted in six languages. She learned English from him without ever visiting an English-speaking country.

In other words: it's not the school, it's the person. Barry Farber, a New York former radio personality, wrote a book "How to Learn Any Language Quickly, Easily, Inexpensively, Enjoyably and on Your Own", implying (as others have) that anybody can do it. That's not true after age 10 but there's an academic refusal to acknowledge certain things, even calling investigating them "racist". But then, Trumpians may have banned the use of the words "climate change" and banished science from much of politics and government. Reality is something else.

The U.S. Army and the State Department assess new recruits/new hires with the MLAT. The MLAT is faulty because like anything academic it favours reasoning power over memory, whereas language learning requires both. But the test does serve as an imperfect guide as to who can benefit from immersion in a "hard language".

Motivation matters. And for those without a photographic memory, time spent on your own learning vocabulary. Cheaper to do that on your own than progressing more slowly in academic settings, and so paying more.

Anecdotes may not mean much, but here's one: my bilingual daughter married a Frenchman who spoke no English. They moved to the USA and I suggested he study English at a university, not at a commercial language school. They've been married about 8 years; his English is not bad now but they speak French at home. To my regret they haven't attributed any importance to the children learning or speaking French, and they don't much.

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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

I was in differnet schools in Luzern:

- Allemagna, evening course till B1 (2012-14)

- ECAP, intensive kurs B1 (2017)

- Allemagna, inteninsive kurs B2 (2018)


Evening courses didn't work for me, I was too tired after work.
ECAP: 4x per week

Allemagna: 5x per week
It really depends of the teachers and your classmates. At the moment I have an amazing teacher (Swiss from Ticino) I also had terrible ones. Classmates that are not motivated can drag down whole group.
Yes they are big holes in the way language schools work here, mainly they do not care if you follow, they do not throw you out if you are lagging behind. They just care that you pay for classes. It's perfect business for them.
But on the other side: when you find good teacher it's just up to you if you are willing to put some effort in it.
Price for the school is swiss as is your salary, so no real complaining here.
Btw. I was also thinking about going to Germany to learn it, but than I couldn't work at the same time and now that I have a good teacher I do not feel that need any more.
Btw. 2: after some discussions with my friends, also more expensive schools in Luzern are not any better
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Re: Intensive German language school in Lucerne

I went to the Migros Klubschule in 2008 and found it acceptable. I may not be the best German speaker, but it did the trick.
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Hi,
I'm moving to Switzerland in January and looking for an intensive german schoolin Lucerne.

Can anybody recommend a beginners course that provides at least 4 hours per day, 5 days a week?

Thanks in advance.
Klubschule Migros, self-study and real life situations.

Good luck
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