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Re: As a result of Brexit could British English be marching towards irrelevance?

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Of course, at the back - that's why they have fanny packs (bum bags we proper English call them ) - but they never carry fags in them
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Old 21.01.2019, 19:06
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Realise is SE in the UK. I'm pretty confused as I'm only really finding that one Wiki page about -ize as UK SE usage. Everything else says - ise is UK SE. It's certainly what has been standard in all my education and in my professional usage. The OUP house style is apparently-ize but i believe that was a historical decision and -ise is considered standard UK usage (sometimes interchanged with -ize) and - ize wholly American. -ise derives from the French derived words we use and have become more prevalent. -ize from the Greek /Latin.

Different publishers have different formats, just like different universities have different formats for essays.

Maybe it's better / more accurate to say that typical UK usage is -ise.
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https://www.upf.edu/en/web/gabinet-l...ford-spelling-
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Oxfor...itish-spelling


xford blog note: 8220;The use of 8216;-ize8217; spellings is part of the house style at Oxford University Press. It reflects the style adopted in the first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary (which was published in parts from 1884 to 1928) and in the first editions of Hart8217;s Rules (1904) and the Authors8217; and Printers8217; Dictionary (1905). These early works chose the 8216;-ize8217; spellings as their preferred forms for etymological reasons: the -ize ending corresponds to the Greek verb endings -izo and 8211;izein.8221;


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Here's a few more

https://www.upf.edu/en/web/gabinet-l...ford-spelling-
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Oxfor...itish-spelling


xford blog note: 8220;The use of 8216;-ize8217; spellings is part of the house style at Oxford University Press. It reflects the style adopted in the first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary (which was published in parts from 1884 to 1928) and in the first editions of Hart8217;s Rules (1904) and the Authors8217; and Printers8217; Dictionary (1905). These early works chose the 8216;-ize8217; spellings as their preferred forms for etymological reasons: the -ize ending corresponds to the Greek verb endings -izo and 8211;izein.8221;


P.S. Didn't mean to groan, wrong button. Sorry.

No worries. I get what you mean but this is in reference to a publishing house's preferred style, not the style in which, say, a text for a UK English GCSE exam would be written in. Not in my experience anyway. ( And I've been an examiner of English GCSEs for over a decade...)
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No worries. I get what you mean but this is in reference to a publishing house's preferred style, not the style in which, say, a text for a UK English GCSE exam would be written in. Not in my experience anyway. ( And I've been an examiner of English GCSEs for over a decade...)
The only reason I had heard about these differences is that while I did all my education in international schools (American spelling), when I did my masters my supervisor insisted in Oxford spelling...
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The only reason I had heard about these differences is that while I did all my education in international schools (American spelling), when I did my masters my supervisor insisted in Oxford spelling...
Yup. I imagine you also had to follow a rather tedious book on how to properly reference an essay/thesis too! It's a "style", not really much to do with SE. The Harvard is Author-Date, the MLA ( from when i did my masters) is another widely used one.
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Yup. I imagine you also had to follow a rather tedious book on how to properly reference an essay/thesis too! It's a "style", not really much to do with SE. The Harvard is Author-Date, the MLA ( from when i did my masters) is another widely used one.
I am sure you never forgot your Oxford comma
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