Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Language corner  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 27.03.2019, 19:30
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5,791
Groaned at 444 Times in 247 Posts
Thanked 6,735 Times in 3,083 Posts
ZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Have to make one last post:

When I saw the thread title I thought WTF - why are you coming to a country that you don't even know how to master the basics of greeting someone in . Finger next to the groan button...

But then thought about it and Googled a bit, and remembered that I'd had the same question for quite a while when I moved here all those years ago.

Anyhow, for any of you already understanding German / Swiss German really well and have Netflix, found this recently released Netfilx comody perfect!


Kaya Yanar, Reiz der Schweiz:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/810256...e7a58f84%2C%2C
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:06
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: here
Posts: 49
Groaned at 13 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Feyr has annoyed a few people around hereFeyr has annoyed a few people around hereFeyr has annoyed a few people around here
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Have to make one last post:

When I saw the thread title I thought WTF - why are you coming to a country that you don't even know how to master the basics of greeting someone in . Finger next to the groan button...

But then thought about it and Googled a bit, and remembered that I'd had the same question for quite a while when I moved here all those years ago.

Anyhow, for any of you already understanding German / Swiss German really well and have Netflix, found this recently released Netfilx comody perfect!


Kaya Yanar, Reiz der Schweiz:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/810256...e7a58f84%2C%2C
I did learn how to greet someone. Hallo in German, Bonjour in French, Chow in Italian. Then I come here and it's different.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:08
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: here
Posts: 49
Groaned at 13 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Feyr has annoyed a few people around hereFeyr has annoyed a few people around hereFeyr has annoyed a few people around here
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Agree, here in Zurich I only use it it when going in shops where people don't know me, or on walks when strangers greet me. And that's another topic:

If you go on a walk / hike above Zurich in the forests, then I've noticed that it's not customary to say Grüezi to people you cross on your way. However, just a little bit out of central Zurich and elsewhere, then it needs to be done.

Can be a bit stressful eying someone up on your daily central Zürich trail as soon as they come into your viewpoint before crossing paths with them, deciding whether they are out of town or not.

And then to decide whether it should be a Grüezi Mitenand i.e. the same to more than one person (e.g. is the women pregnant, will they feel offended if I don't greet their dog etc.).

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCezi
That's a whole lot of rules for saying hello..
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:21
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 17,418
Groaned at 685 Times in 533 Posts
Thanked 26,567 Times in 10,710 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:

Why does the picture depict a nuclear detonation over the Rigi? I think we need some answers.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #45  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:24
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Why does the picture depict a nuclear detonation over the Rigi? I think we need some answers.
That Sonderbundskrieg got quite nasty at times!
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #46  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:31
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5,791
Groaned at 444 Times in 247 Posts
Thanked 6,735 Times in 3,083 Posts
ZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
I did learn how to greet someone. Hallo in German, Bonjour in French, Chow in Italian. Then I come here and it's different.
ciao

If you live in Switzerland, get these basics right .
Chow is worse than someone saying expresso.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank ZuriRollt for this useful post:
  #47  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:34
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 13,131
Groaned at 218 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 15,264 Times in 7,847 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
Gruezi is, allegedly, a contraction of Gross Gott (which you will still hear in Austria) and is used as a greeting, not just "hello" but, like bonjour in French, a more general term which you'll hear when someone comes into a café or when you encounter staffers when it walking. There's almost no situation where it would not be appropriate when you encounter other people, known to you or not.

I've also never heard it used as a parting wish, so I think you're mis-hearing something else.
"Grüss Gott". Very old fashioned here. People like me usually add "wenn Du ihn siehst" .... basically say hi to God if you run into Him.

Quote:
View Post
Not quite. There is a Swiss version of Standard German, but that's called Swiss Standard German (Schweizer Hochdeutsch). Standard Swiss German would mean kind of a standardized version of Swiss German, which is deemed impossible to ever really exist.
There is?
That might be wishful thinking by newcomers.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 27.03.2019, 20:46
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5,791
Groaned at 444 Times in 247 Posts
Thanked 6,735 Times in 3,083 Posts
ZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Why does the picture depict a nuclear detonation over the Rigi? I think we need some answers.
No, I'm pretty sure that is another sighting of Trump, with a mole of other thing expanding out of it's body. Depending on the angle you're viewing.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 27.03.2019, 21:29
olygirl's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: d' Innerschwiiz
Posts: 7,780
Groaned at 418 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 18,329 Times in 5,676 Posts
olygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

If I were in charge of naturalization here, I'd require every candidate to learn the following song and translate its lyrics into English.

Ja, Grüeziwohl, Frau Stirnimaa
Säged si, wi läbed si
Wi sind si ä so draa?
Grüeziwohl, Frau Stirnimaa
Säged si, wi läbed si
Wi gahts dän irem Maa?
Grüeziwohl, Frau Stirnimaa
Säged si, wi läbed si
Wi sind si ä so draa?
Grüeziwohl, Frau Stirnimaa
Säged si, wi sind si ä so draa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2_j-TwEPZ0
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank olygirl for this useful post:
  #50  
Old 27.03.2019, 23:06
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 13,131
Groaned at 218 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 15,264 Times in 7,847 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
Au contraire, the blending of languages in ever-evolving English is a hallmark of the current zeitgeist.
yep, generally known from the time one goes to Kindertarten.

Quote:
"Lucerne" is the French, and consequently the English, spelling. For some unknown reason, Swiss (and other foreign) place names are often spelled in English as the French spell them, or at least based on the French spelling: Lucerne, Berne, Basle (which is the anglicization of Bâle), Grisons, even if the local language is not French.
Isn't that the weirdest thing. And then when it comes to France, where they wouldn't have much thinking to do it's suddenly Dordogneshire.

Quote:
View Post
Agree, here in Zurich I only use it it when going in shops where people don't know me, or on walks when strangers greet me. And that's another topic:

If you go on a walk / hike above Zurich in the forests, then I've noticed that it's not customary to say Grüezi to people you cross on your way. However, just a little bit out of central Zurich and elsewhere, then it needs to be done.

Can be a bit stressful eying someone up on your daily central Zürich trail as soon as they come into your viewpoint before crossing paths with them, deciding whether they are out of town or not.

And then to decide whether it should be a Grüezi Mitenand i.e. the same to more than one person (e.g. is the women pregnant, will they feel offended if I don't greet their dog etc.).

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCezi
You're google map on the handy does not alert you "out of town, Grüetzi-area"? Gee every provider alerts you of the new terms when roaming.

Quote:
View Post
I did learn how to greet someone. Hallo in German, Bonjour in French, Chow in Italian. Then I come here and it's different.
You just outed yourself as a non-newbie here. You must have been reading Tom's posts on EF for a long, long time to think the Italian version is "chow"
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 27.03.2019, 23:09
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,914
Groaned at 182 Times in 142 Posts
Thanked 6,193 Times in 3,406 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
That's because "Lucerne" is French.

"Alfalfa" is proper English for Lucerne/Luzern/Lucerna!

Tom
I am borne in Loozern and it is spelled Loozern
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank cannut for this useful post:
  #52  
Old 27.03.2019, 23:17
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Chow is worse than someone saying expresso.
... which is normal French, and especially Swiss French, for espresso.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 28.03.2019, 05:36
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post


Isn't that the weirdest thing.
Weirder than Mailand or Genf?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #54  
Old 28.03.2019, 07:41
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
Quote:
View Post
Chow is worse than someone saying expresso.
... which is normal French, and especially Swiss French, for espresso.
In French French it's more likely to be called "un express".
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #55  
Old 28.03.2019, 11:25
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 10,132
Groaned at 591 Times in 428 Posts
Thanked 13,654 Times in 7,104 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
If you go on a walk / hike above Zurich in the forests, then I've noticed that it's not customary to say Grüezi to people you cross on your way. However, just a little bit out of central Zurich and elsewhere, then it needs to be done.

Can be a bit stressful eying someone up on your daily central Zürich trail as soon as they come into your viewpoint before crossing paths with them, deciding whether they are out of town or not.
Keep it simple:
You greet if you make eye contact, perhaps unless the other follows that contact with rigorously staring at their feet or looking away from you or something. This negotiation usually happens at a distance, say 5-10m. Usually works both ways of course. If greeted you greet back, no exceptions.

The more crowded the less likely people are to greet. You don't greet in a crowd or on the Bahnhofstrasse during rush hour but it's almost mandatory in a forest.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #56  
Old 28.03.2019, 11:36
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 13,131
Groaned at 218 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 15,264 Times in 7,847 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Keep it simple:
You greet if you make eye contact, perhaps unless the other follows that contact with rigorously staring at their feet or looking away from you or something. This negotiation usually happens at a distance, say 5-10m. Usually works both ways of course. If greeted you greet back, no exceptions.

The more crowded the less likely people are to greet. You don't greet in a crowd or on the Bahnhofstrasse during rush hour but it's almost mandatory in a forest.
Then there's me - the harder they try to avoid it, the better the chance they get a "Grüetzi" from me out in the woods. Just for the lolz.

Bahnhofstrasse: You would be surprised how often I get greeted there by complete strangers. Guess that is their lolz.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank curley for this useful post:
  #57  
Old 28.03.2019, 11:46
Elu Elu is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Olten
Posts: 629
Groaned at 22 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 1,222 Times in 513 Posts
Elu has a reputation beyond reputeElu has a reputation beyond reputeElu has a reputation beyond reputeElu has a reputation beyond reputeElu has a reputation beyond reputeElu has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Keep it simple:
You greet if you make eye contact, perhaps unless the other follows that contact with rigorously staring at their feet or looking away from you or something. This negotiation usually happens at a distance, say 5-10m. Usually works both ways of course. If greeted you greet back, no exceptions.

The more crowded the less likely people are to greet. You don't greet in a crowd or on the Bahnhofstrasse during rush hour but it's almost mandatory in a forest.
When I was sixteen I moved to basel from a rural small village (where you greet just everyone you see). I got quite strange looks from strangers at Claraplatz when I greeted them. It took me some days to change.
When I moved back to the countryside I once got snarled at by an old lady because i forgot to greet.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Elu for this useful post:
  #58  
Old 28.03.2019, 14:40
venetian's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Zuerich
Posts: 762
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 946 Times in 434 Posts
venetian has a reputation beyond reputevenetian has a reputation beyond reputevenetian has a reputation beyond reputevenetian has a reputation beyond reputevenetian has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
Agree, here in Zurich I only use it it when going in shops where people don't know me, or on walks when strangers greet me.
I was told that the "zi" in "Gruetzi" stands for "Sie", so your way of using it is appropriate.
https://bestswiss.ch/gruezi

Quote:
If you go on a walk / hike above Zurich in the forests, then I've noticed that it's not customary to say Grüezi to people you cross on your way. However, just a little bit out of central Zurich and elsewhere, then it needs to be done.

Can be a bit stressful eying someone up on your daily central Zürich trail as soon as they come into your viewpoint before crossing paths with them, deciding whether they are out of town or not.
I think that is somehow related to "mountain etiquette", because it's the same in the mountain regions of Italy. You don't do it in cities, but mountain locals appreciate the greeting when you are walking in (their) woods...
Anyway, I usually do it in Zurich area as well, unless a) it's a crowded touristic trail like the Uetliberg or b) I am clearly crossing paths with foreigners or students, e.g. close to Honng campus.

Quote:
And then to decide whether it should be a Grüezi Mitenand i.e. the same to more than one person (e.g. is the women pregnant, will they feel offended if I don't greet their dog etc.).

http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank venetian for this useful post:
  #59  
Old 28.03.2019, 15:50
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 12,361
Groaned at 338 Times in 274 Posts
Thanked 26,263 Times in 11,000 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
Yet you write that in English, which is French and German mixed in one language.
que?
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 28.03.2019, 15:52
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What does "GREETSEE" mean?

Quote:
View Post
You say "GREEEZLEEEE" back.

There used to be bears here.
This is an under appreciated response.

Snorted on my tea just now.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What does "perfect condition" mean to you kiwigeek Complaints corner 40 09.01.2014 20:03
What does "valid for one hour" mean? BinaVL Transportation/driving 20 22.03.2013 16:15
What does "Number of entries requested" mean? alison Permits/visas/government 8 13.04.2012 18:45
"Shanghai me" phrase - what does it mean ? aa_248 General off-topic 12 24.05.2010 23:31
What does "ausnutzungsreserve" mean? (home/land purchase) Visitor0101 Housing in general 1 07.07.2008 22:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 22:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0